Talk:2012 CECAFA Cup

Article format
Hey fellow editors,

I just wanted to start a discussion on the format of the article to reach a consensus and prevent future edit-warring. I think the article should be like this; the tournament's stages in their own sections with tables showing the standings and the scores for the group stage and a bracket and tables showing the scores for the knockout stage (except the third-place playoff and final), like the 2012 Kagame Interclub Cup article. I think it should be like this because it gives the reader an easier time reading and understanding the article. It also enables him to view the details of the various stages in their sub-pages, or if he doesn't want to view them he can just read the summaries on the main page. This saves time, energy and possibly even money (to pay for the modem, etc.) for the reader. What do the rest of you think? Davykamanzi &rarr; talk  &middot; &#32; cont ribs  14:47, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I know my involvement in this article may seem a little over-the-top or too much, or maybe even ostentatious, but I'm an East African. And those of us who live here want to know as much as we can about what's going on within our boundaries. So I'm just working hard to ensure that those of us living in East Africa can know as many details as possible about a tournament that's important to them and is happening in their backyard (like the notice above says, WikiProject Football is a collaborative effort to improve coverage of association football on Wikipedia, and that's what I'm trying to do with this tournament and other tournaments/leagues). So if you don't even care enough to discuss with me in order to reach a consensus on the article's format then I don't think you're being as collaborative as you should be. Davykamanzi &rarr; talk  &middot; &#32; cont ribs  01:02, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Davy, I personally don't have any problem with how you format the article. As far as I am concerned, the more information provided the better, it wasn't long ago that there wasn't even article on CECAFA or the Cups on Wikipedia! Where about in East Africa are you from, Kenya? TheBigJagielka (talk) 13:50, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That's good to hear, then. And that's very true! The more information, the better! Other editors just want to keep it simple because it's a "small tournament" but they're not bearing in mind the people who actually live in the areas they're editing on and want to know more about what's going on within their boundaries. I'm Rwandan but I live in Kenya. Davykamanzi &rarr; talk  &middot; &#32; cont ribs  15:02, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Totals table at bottom of article is incorrect
Goals scored & conceded 62 in 26 games is 2.38, not 1.19. Every goal is a goal for and a goal against, not one or the other, or half and half. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.149.11 (talk) 03:11, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. It's a problem with the template (fb cl3 footer); it was dividing total goals by total matches (wins+draws+losses, when it's meant to be wins+(draws÷2) since all total wins are equal to all total losses and since all draws involve two teams), but I've fixed it. Davykamanzi &rarr; talk  &middot; &#32; cont ribs  20:26, 16 December 2012 (UTC)