Talk:2012 Summer Olympics closing ceremony/Archive 1

Minor spelling mistake
That should be Brian May, not Brain May. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.174.96 (talk) 01:31, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

4 billion?
This page, citing the London Olympics page, says that the closing ceremony will have an estimated global audience of 4 billion. I know that this is an "official" number, but it's completely ridiculous. There are only 7 billion people in the world, and large percentage of them don't have access to television or internet (to say nothing of electricity or running water).

The opening ceremony was viewed by only 900 million people. Unless there is another source to corroborate the 4 billion estimation for the closing ceremony I think it should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Proprius (talk • contribs) 06:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. I raised the same point in talk on the Opening Ceremony.  The 4 billion figure as an 'actual' for the opening ceremony appeared in one BBC report and has since spread to other media, but as you say this was always a fanciful nonsense figure.  In Canada, where TV ownership is almost universal, the live show was in the daytime, and with its historic links to the UK, viewing penetration was only 57%.  So 4/7 ths of the world is an absurd estimate.  The Telegraph today estimates 750 million for the closing ceremony, which sounds about right, so I've edited this into the article IanB2 (talk) 12:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

removal of "speculated" section
Should the Speculated section be removed? It's not official. --Vincent Liu (something to say?) 08:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Other confirmed performers
Take That have withdrawn and the participation of One Direction is NOT in the citation given. ShipFan (Talk) 06:14, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Take That were there, and OD is now listed and sourcedLihaas (talk) 06:20, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

NOC Flag Bearers For Closing Ceremony
Can we please have a section or a new page to show who all the flag bearers are for the closing ceremony please as it would make as good as referance as the flag bearers for the opening cermony (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 22:28, 11 August 2012 (UTC))
 * Lihaas (talk) 05:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Lots of copyvio from http://www.london2012.com/spectators/ceremonies/closing-ceremony/
There is alot of copyright violation from the official london page in this article. http://www.london2012.com/copyright/ does not release this text under a free license. -- 15:01, 12 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.227.4 (talk)
 * I have removed it. Thanks for pointing it out. Ravendrop 15:53, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Marathon Medal Ceremony
As this article gets tightened up, someone needs to insert into the line-up when the marathon's medal ceremony took place. Mind you, it got cut from NBC's broadcast of the event. Acroyear (talk) 02:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅...and yuo can give the barn star ;)Lihaas (talk) 05:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Reviews
The Windsor star review of the closing ceremony. They hailed it as Triumph, spectacular, technicolour pageant of landmarks, lightshows and lots of fun.

http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/2012-summer-games/London+closes+Games/7079318/story.html

The Independant said it was "slick, impressive, often visually startling" and "Eccentric, bewildering – and shameless good fun"

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/london-olympics-2012-closing-ceremony-eccentric-bewildering--and-shameless-good-fun-8037281.html


 * ✅Lihaas (talk) 06:17, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Bowie
I'd strongly suggest replacing the long list of Bowie songs (except "Fashion") with a single entry making it clear that only a few seconds of each were played. "Fashion" should of course remain in the current format as it was actually played in its entirety or nearly so, but as it is the list creates the incorrect impression that a short concert's worth of Bowie songs were played, when the reality is that one song was done, preceded by a very short medley of many others. 50.72.196.97 (talk) 06:22, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Now done. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Photos
Can we please have some photos from the closing ceremony added onto the page please inculding a replacement of the photo which I put on the top of the page of the Olympic Stadium because I only intended it to be a temporary untill there was a picture alivable from the closing ceremony itself. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 12:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC))
 * That's happening, with time. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Rio 2016
I was thinking it would be included the Brazilian songs played on the ceremony... I don't have them in the right order, but we can start by Heitor Villa Lobos - Bachianas no. 5 and Marisa Monte and Seu Jorge - Aquele Abraço (Gilberto Gil cover). --189.19.124.133 (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Article format
In addition to the last two request above, are we changing standards and not including the format and the sequence of the programme's events similar to 2008 Summer Olympics closing ceremony and 2010 Winter Olympics closing ceremony? Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure what way you mean, may need to be chronologically sorted, bu t im much too tire dnow.Lihaas (talk) 05:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Beady Eye – "Wonderwall"
Shouldn't it be:

Beady Eye – "Wonderwall" (Oasis cover)    ...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.114.203 (talk) 06:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

It should specify that, although it was Beady Eye, it was Liam Gallagher singing his own song Carpedog (talk) 20:56, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Olympic Flame
Surely the Cauldron will next be lit for the 2012 Summer Paralympics, rather than Sochi as indicated at the end of Para 1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.228.120 (talk) 08:15, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * The Paralympics are not the Olympics. Pro hib it O ni o ns  (T) 13:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Volunteer thanks
Does anyone know who the athletes from different countries thanking the volunteers were? I know one was Katherine Grainger, the British rower (sculler). 90.244.42.114 (talk) 10:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Musical performances and tracks played
The tracks played at the event were...

Seu Jorge sang, "Nem Vem Que Não Tem".

It's currently listed as blank, so please can someone update this section.
 * Source?
 * And please sign your postsLihaas (talk) 19:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Queen and Royal Protocol
I heard from a family member that it is Royal protocol that the Queen never closes anything and only turns up to open, thus the reason why she was not present. I could not find any proof of this with a quick google search. Anyone know any more of this? Mishka Shaw (talk) 11:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * This is not true. She closed the Commonwealth Games in Manchester 2002 and called upon the athletes to assemble in Melbourne 2006. I believe she also closed Edinburgh in 1970, but can't find evidence to support that. As I understand it, it was never intended for the Queen to close London 2012, as the official close is done by the President of the IOC and there is no official role for the Head of State of the Host Nation at the Closing Ceremony. The Court Circular shows her as going to Balmoral for the start of her [delayed) annual vacation on August 6th and not returning until August 29th when she will open the Paralympics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.228.120 (talk) 12:12, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Citation needed tags
hello,

who spammed the page with cn tags? The source is the performance itself; if you are curious, there are many videos in the internet. If something is incorrect then simply remove it. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 11:33, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * The height of laziness. No Google on their computers? The most perfunctory of searches can find a good ref instead of banging these cn tags in.....--Egghead06 (talk) 11:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * In saying that, you're saying that whoever initially added that content was lazy. Was that your intention? HiLo48 (talk) 11:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, can you please tell me again what I am saying other than referring to cn tags?--Egghead06 (talk) 11:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll frame it as a question. Who are you accusing of laziness? HiLo48 (talk) 11:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You sound confrontational? Did you not see the heading cn tags?--Egghead06 (talk) 11:53, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And you're avoiding conversation. My point is that if anyone was lazy it was the person who didn't source the content in the first place. If it's unsourced, cn tags are fully justified. HiLo48 (talk) 11:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I hear what you say. It is better to put in cn rather than complete the most basic of searches. Thanks for the advice.--Egghead06 (talk) 12:25, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The performance itself is the source, damned. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 11:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And where can I look that up? HiLo48 (talk) 12:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * How about this? Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 12:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Is that legal? HiLo48 (talk) 12:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, trust me. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 12:17, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope: Blocked by most UK ISPs due to Court order. Better to check the BBC or Eurosport sites 12:29, 13 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.228.120 (talk)
 * What about this link as a source http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19235488
 * 1. its not spanm, 2. "height of laziness" then why dont you go ahead and find a "perfunctory google search" to add a source. 2. instead of resporting t NPAS one can see that at least content was added almost immediatey after it ended. For what was from memory and not soure, somoene else could add a tag as thats the purpose of a tag. Also PirateBay is not a RS to use as a verificable sourceLihaas (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Cars
editsemiprotected The cars that Jessie J, Taio Cruz and Tinie Tempah arrived in weren't limousines, they were Rolls Royce Phantoms.
 * Citation, please. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ive added it as saying Rolls Royce (per source), but which RR needs sourceLihaas (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Here you are http://cars.uk.msn.com/beyond-the-games/the-cars-of-the-olympics-closing-ceremony — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.142.168 (talk) 23:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Musical performances and tracks played
Can we please separate out the live performers from people whose recordings were played? This article currently makes it sound like Bowie, for example, was on stage. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you get a verifiable source?Lihaas (talk) 19:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * For what? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:22, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * For who played live. The current list is highly debatable. It's unlikely Madness and the Pet Shop Boys did as they were repeated very soon after (unless the act was recorded live in the stadium and replayed?) The Musician's Union is widely reported (see here http://www.itv.com/news/2012-04-13/musicians-to-mime-at-olympic-ceremony/) to have claimed that many of the acts were planned to be mimed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.142.168 (talk) 23:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the Live/Recording element is misleading, eg it means who was there and who was not (eg by being dead). It doesn't say who sang and who mimed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.142.168 (talk) 23:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I have just removed a note that said this was distinguished by italics, a) because it wasn't and b) because we shouldn't use italics for such differentiation, for accessibility reasons. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:24, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

fashion and other things
there are so many things missing, such as the models and the British designers they were wearing. What is the best way to submit a lot of small changes? I'm fairly new to this aspect of wikipedia  Carpedog (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * For a large number of small changes, you have two choices. First, you can click Edit at the top, and edit the whole article, thus introducing all of your small changes in one edit. This does have the disadvantage that if it takes you half an hour to make all the edits then save, you might run into an edit conflict with another editor (especially on a busy article like this). The second choice is to click Edit on each section you want to change, and make your small changes one at a time, saving the page after each change.


 * For either approach, it's a good idea to include an Edit Summary with each edit. Also you should aim to include a reference for each fact that you add (newspapers, magazines, or reputable online news websites are good for this, while blogs, wordpress, facebook, youtube and so on are not - see WP:REFB for further details on how to do it.) Just adding something on the basis that you saw it in the ceremony (even though I saw it too!) is not ideal. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Acrobats, giant octopus
Seems like a section on the acrobats (and some more on the dancers) could be included, not just the music. Also no mention of the giant inflatable octopus and load of other staging bits seem to have been overlooked. finding sources that mention them may be tricky, is the bbc coverage a sufficient source? EdwardLane (talk) 10:14, 14 August 2012 (UTC)