Talk:2013 Alberta floods

Fort McMurray area too
The severe Fort McMurray area flood, which ended just as the southern/central Alberta flooding was beginning, should also be covered under the scope of this article, given the article's title and the notability of the Fort McMurray area flood. Just added it to the infobox. We can lace content into the article as everything calms down so as to not distract from the effort on the current events. Hwy43 (talk) 04:29, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The Fort McMurray flood isn't being treated as related though. If sources do tie it in, then absolutely.  Otherwise, a rename to 2013 southern Alberta floods is possible (or something broader if the downstream effects in Saskatchewan and Manitoba become significant). Resolute 15:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * See latest post at WP:CANADA, but do suggest we keep this discussion here rather than there. Hwy43 (talk) 15:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm going to abandon this. At most there could be one or two sentences in this article indicating this more significant event was on the heals of the Fort McMurray event and that government response to both were rolled in together. Hwy43 (talk) 22:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Lead
Something about the way the lead section reads (especially the first sentence) just makes it sound absolutely awful, but I can't think what to change to make it less awkward. Any suggestions? Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 07:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Related
Please remember to update the related articles (cities, geographic features, parks, buildings, rivers, Flames, Stampede, etc) when something big happens to them -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 08:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * But not until things are officially confirmed. We don't want somebody post here bogus news that, say, the Stampede has been cancelled or the Saddledome condemned, have it removed by editors, but then have them have to go hunting to see where else that information might have gone if it's been "re-posted" in good faith by others. 70.72.201.229 (talk) 15:02, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * We already know the stampede grounds were damaged, and we know that the Saddledome was damaged, we even know much of the major damage to the saddledome. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 02:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstood me. I meant that it would be easy for someone to post bogus information here - there were rumors kicking around, for example, that the Stampede was cancelled, when the Stampede itself announced yesterday it was going ahead - and then someone in good or bad faith then take this information and decanter it far and wide (there are multiple articles related to Stampede). An excellent example was the report - even carried by major media - that the big cats from the Calgary Zoo had been evacuated to holding cells at the Calgary Courts building; someone reposting this information prematurely to other articles would have needlessly caused work for other editors. 70.72.201.229 (talk) 14:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Here in this article is also not the related articles, which still need updating -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 07:23, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

News coverage, etc
I don't know if it's worth noting, but several local TV channels suspended regular programming for the better part of 2 days to cover the floods. This might be the first time this has happened in Calgary (discounting coverage of international events like 9/11). It might also be worth noting that the city was not "shut down" as some media have suggested; thanks to its immense footprint, many areas of Calgary, particularly the north and northeast, were not impacted at all by any road closures, etc. 70.72.201.229 (talk) 15:02, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Satellite data and preconditions
Editors might incorporate these reports into the article. —Wavelength (talk) 16:42, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Satellite data hinted at Alberta floods weeks ago - The Globe and Mail (June 25, 2013)—Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE)
 * DeSmog Canada: Alberta's Flood: 30 Years in the Making—The Huffington Post

Timeline
I think it would be nice to have a timeline of events, especially since many statements don't have dates. 117Avenue (talk) 05:46, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe as a child article. But I think it would clutter this one a litte. Resolute 20:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * This article can still expand. 117Avenue (talk) 02:07, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Federal level
"...toured the flooded area on (?) and promised...". Should the date be inserted here? Respectfully,  Tiyang (talk) 12:49, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

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Too Many Images?
Article seems a little bloated with images of flood. If some are of important scenes may need additional information. Otherwise I might suggest some removal to avoid unnecessarily cluttering. Jpattiz (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Other parts of Calgary
I'm not sure how to add this as this is more anecdotal and I'm unaware of media coverage, but during the flood emergency I was in the northeast portion of the city (region of 16th Avenue and 36th Street) and despite the mayor asking people to stay home and reports of businesses closing, etc., it was very much business as usual. Stores and malls were open, and there was a lot of traffic. I heard it was similar in other parts of the city. The point I'm making is while the media (and, now, history books) suggest Calgary as a whole was shut down by the floods and the aftermath, no such thing happened. Given the size of the city, and the fact quite a number of neighbourhoods were elevated well above the flood, there were extensive sections of the city that were unaffected by the flood and remained open for business (albeit some cross-town routes were closed due to the flood, so traffic on some roads such as the Stoney Trail ring road was heavier than usual. 70.73.90.119 (talk) 04:38, 21 November 2021 (UTC)