Talk:2015 Tour de France, Stage 1 to Stage 11

Wikilinking
What's the standard for wikilinking in sports articles? Right now, the same riders are linked many times down the page. According to the manual of style, "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, a link may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." Is it okay if I start to remove some of the dups? MeegsC (talk) 18:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

First African
Teklehaimanot can be described as first African to have the KoM jersey (later edit: retract that: Froome had it in 2012 and 2013), but not the first to have any special jersey, nor does the source claim that to be the case. Identity is complex, and much more multi-faceted than the changeable label that is representative nationality. Froome is African: that might not fully describe him, but it is true. And so is Daryl Impey. Kevin McE (talk) 22:27, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Trust me, I understand the point you're trying to make, but in terms of the UCI, the 2015 TdF and this race, Froome is European and Teklehaimanot is African, no matter what DNA runs through their veins or where they call home. The problem, it seems, is how we convey the correct meaning. How do you say the country they represent without the confusion of team/nation? BaldBoris 23:07, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * But we are talking about people, not registrations. I realise that I had forgotten that Froome led the KoM in a previous tour, so the phrases that I had proposed I shall revert.  Frankly, given that Teklehaimanot was not the first African to hold the jersey, and that when he held the jersey he was not riding for a nation, why the enthusiasm to publish it?  If you consider it relevant that a black African had the jersey, state that: if you think it relevant that he was the first Eritrean, say so, but do not say that he was the first African because he was not.  The UCI and the ASO only have the capacity to state what registration a rider competes under, not to opine on his identity. Newspapers and websites carrying advertising have to seek out something special to say about any event: we only need to when it is true and truly noteworthy.  Our standard for facts can be higher than theirs: if a claim needs lots of qualification, it is probably not that noteworthy. If there is a need to explain why Froome might not have been considered African for the point in question, that acknowledges that the claim is dubious; why make dubious claims? Kevin McE (talk) 23:28, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

stages 3 & 4
I'm probably missing something obvious but I don't understand this:
 * Froome leads Martin by 1 second after stage 3.
 * Martin beats Froome by 3 seconds on stage 4.
 * Martin now leads Froome by 12 seconds in GC.

Shouldn't Martin only lead Froome by 2 seconds ??? Can someone please explain to me how I am wrong, - Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 00:42, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * There was presumably a ten-second time bonus for winning the stage, . Cordless Larry (talk) 07:54, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * thank you very much! - Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 08:09, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

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