Talk:2019 Tour Championship

vandalism
Someone modified this maliciously. I tried to undo but couldn't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.71.122 (talk) 00:56, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Mark Allen
If Mark Allen wins the final with highest break price he can win the coral cup with 192.500£, so I think it's mathematically possible, isn't it? unless you don't take into account the highest break bonus  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.202.207.135 (talk) 18:15, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * http://www.worldsnooker.com/rocket-wins-stunning-black-ball-finale/ says "O’Sullivan will win the cup unless Robertson takes the title." so I think we can assume that the high-break prize won't count. Nigej (talk) 18:52, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
 * High breaks don't count towards ranking - ever. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:19, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Rewrite?
"The best-of-25 final will be the first non-World Championship match of this length since the 1992 UK Championship final and will be staged over two days." is mildly confusing in my view. The 1992 UK Championship final was best-of-31 over 4 sessions, so in some sense it was not a "match of this length" - it was longer. the 1989 British Open final was the last best-of-25, although planned for 4 sessions. Nigej (talk) 18:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to read that this was the last match played to a length of 25 frames or more outside the world championships since 1992. Feel free to reword. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

O'Sullivan as number 1?
Is O'Sullivan even ranked number one? I've seen tonnes of changes, but aren't these still provisional rankings? There is still the China Open before the next cut off, right? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * As far as I understand it: The World Rankings are updated after every ranking event. However, only some of these are used for seedings etc. The latter rankings are the "cut offs". We seem to maintain a historical list of the cut-off rankings but not the full set. Nigej (talk) 08:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Article title
I just fixed a link in the Tournament summary section and it's highlighted a discrepancy in the naming of the Coral Cup articles. The main snooker Tour Championship article is called Tour Championship (snooker) to distinguish it from the Tour Championship golf tournament of the same name. I wonder if this article should therefore be called 2019 Tour Championship (snooker) for the same reason and for consistency with the other articles in the Coral Cup suite. To be more specific:
 * Coral Cup (snooker): when this article is created, everything that spawns from it should have "(snooker)" in the title to avoid confusion
 * World Grand Prix (snooker): this generic article has "(snooker)" in title to disambiguate it from the darts event, video game, etc. – suggest that 2019 World Grand Prix should be renamed 2019 World Grand Prix (snooker) for consistency (and cf. 2019 World Grand Prix (darts))
 * Players Championship (snooker): this generic article has "(snooker)" in title to disambiguate it from all the other players championships (golf/darts/curling/etc.) – similarly 2019 Players Championship (snooker) has "(snooker)" in title so this is already consistent
 * Tour Championship (snooker): this generic article has "(snooker)" in title to distinguish it from the golf tournament of the same name – therefore suggest that 2019 Tour Championship should be renamed 2019 Tour Championship (snooker) for consistency Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:56, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not how WP:COMMONNAME or WP:PRIMARYTOPIC works, sadly. We have prior, with the UK Championship (snooker), and 1979 UK Championship etc. We don't need to disambiguate if there is no other primary topic, or like in this case, the primary topic doesn't have an article. The Golf Tour is the primary topic, but it doesn't have a yearly article. I'd be very much opposed to a move. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:02, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


 * OK, I can see how this works for the current article (2019 Tour Championship) as there is no other article with this name to compete with it, fair enough. But the 2019 World Grand Prix article (snooker tournament) is being treated as the primary topic for that title, even though the darts tournament (2019 World Grand Prix (darts)) is getting 6 times as many views (6,632 views in last 60 days compared with 1,154 views for the snooker article). Is it worth bringing this up or should we hope that eventually the snooker WGPs will become so popular that they will automatically become the undisputed primary topic in no time at all? Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:21, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Primary topic isn't based on view count, more on recognising what topic is more meant when using the title. There's three possible outcomes here - 1 - the snooker article is the primary topic, 2- the darts is primary, or 3- neither is primary. Without looking at the darts competition, it's hard for me to see either way, but if it is the primary topic, then it's worth putting in a requested move for the series of articles, and getting a wider range of input. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:41, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I think I'll just leave it alone for now ;) Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:00, 20 September 2019 (UTC)