Talk:2019 World Open (snooker)

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 * Well, yay and all that, but if the hook hangs on the tidbit about Neil Robertson, why doesn't the Neil Robertson article reflect that same tidbit? Shenme (talk) 02:59, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It probably should - Be WP:BOLD and add it. As Robertson isn't the subject of the DYK it doesn't have to contain the hook. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:57, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 3 November 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved - consensus against (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 19:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, there is only one other "World Open" event that we would need to disambiguate from, which are the events in the World Open (squash) series. However, these are all titled such as the 2016 Men's World Open Squash Championship. There are other events, such as the World Open chess tournament, and World Poker Open which don't have annual articles, and would have natural disambiguations. We have a precident that we do not need to disambiguate simply because the overarching article has a disambiguation (in this case World Open (snooker)), as we have the 2019 UK Championship and UK Championship (snooker) among others. The current disambiguation across a lot of articles is not necessary. The final one has a pointless disambiguation that we can either move or delete, as stated above they are naturally disambiguated. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:08, 3 November 2019 (UTC) -->
 * 2019 World Open (snooker) → 2019 World Open
 * 2018 World Open (snooker) → 2018 World Open
 * 2017 World Open (snooker) → 2017 World Open
 * 2016 World Open (snooker) → 2016 World Open
 * 2014 World Open (snooker) → 2014 World Open
 * 2013 World Open (snooker) → 2013 World Open
 * 2012 World Open (snooker) → 2012 World Open
 * 2010 World Open → 2010 World Open (disambiguation)
 * 2010 World Open (snooker) → 2010 World Open
 * Oppose - one of the first results I got on Google was to a chess tournament which has an article at - World Open chess tournament. "World Open" is such a generic phrase that it should never be a primary. --Gonnym (talk) 22:22, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Did you try looking searching for the individual years ? This isn't for the main article for World Open to change, simply the individual years. You search for any of these on google and you'll get the snooker tournaments. I understand the need for the main article not to change, but the individual years articles don't share this. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:26, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The tournament pages should follow the disambiguation style of the parent article. Also, while there aren't currently any chess articles corresponding to the years of the tournaments listed above, the page clearly shows that there was a "2019 World Open" chess tournament that year. Changing the pages will cause more harm than good. --Gonnym (talk) 22:29, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose. World open what? Too generic not to be disambiguated. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation from what? There is no 2019 World Open article, nor any other 2019 World Open (disambuation) articles. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:26, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * We have to apply common sense. This is just too generic not to provide more information. A reader has to have some idea what it's referring to. Who would see "world open" and think, oh right, it's about a snooker championship?! -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:55, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Although I'm always keen to back you up Lee, my honest opinion on this one is that it's probably best left alone (sorry). To call this article simply "World Open" is way too obscure and could mean just about anything, so it's sensible to keep the word "snooker" in parentheses. For comparison... with the World Snooker Championship, the word "Snooker" is included in the official name of the championship so the question doesn't arise; with the UK Championship, although the word "Snooker" is not in the name, it is a very "famous" snooker tournament (one of the big 3 Triple Crown events) so we can get away with it. I would argue that the World Open is not popular/prominent enough to be automatically interpreted as being a snooker event, so we do need the word "Snooker" in the name. Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:46, 9 November 2019 (UTC)


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World Snooker Full Calendar
The live link to the World Snooker calendar (ref.4) is useless because the calendar is being regularly updated and the 2019 events have therefore now dropped off the list. So although it's a "live" link, I've marked it as "unfit" to be used here. The archive was an old 2015 version of the calendar (again useless for the purposes of this article) so I've replaced it with the relevant archive dated 31 Oct 2019 which contains the tournaments we're talking about. Unfortunately there's a problem with this archive: the cookie consent window obscures the page after it's fully loaded and the accept button doesn't work so you can't get rid of it, but if you're quick you can see the information before the "We value your privacy" wall pops up. Far from ideal. An alternative calendar is this one but unfortunately it doesn't show which events are ranking and which aren't. Rodney Baggins (talk) 11:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry I just realised that last one is already in as ref.5. Rodney Baggins (talk) 20:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)