Talk:2020 Canadian Championship Final

Merger discussion
Request received to merge articles: 2020 Canadian Championship into 2020 Canadian Championship Final; dated: August 2020. Proposer's Rationale:

The 2020 Canadian Championship format has been changed, and the main tournament will not be held, only the Final. When reverting my merge suggested that this article should remain to document the original format. I do not think we need the date of every single match in a tournament that was not held. We do not, for example, have the entire schedule or results table for the previous 2020 Canadian Premier League season format on that page. Instead, there is explanation of the original format and the schedule and results of the format that is actually being played out.

An explanation of the two previous formats is already present on the Final page, discussing the original format, the exclusion of Division 3 teams, and inclusion of Atlético Ottawa. I think that more than suffices, but even if more documentation of past format is needed, the Final page is the best place to do that. The original format section could include more details or perhaps a copy of the bracket if it is deemed necessary.

There is no purpose for this article to be around simply to document the old format of the 2020 tournament. The best place for such details is in the main article for the current iteration of the tournament. If this had been changed to a different bracket format under the same name, I suspect all editors would support replacing the old bracket and schedule with the new one, and leaving the old format explained in the Original format section, as is partially done already. While treat this any differently? The only difference is that the 2020 edition is now only the Canadian Championship Final, and so ought to be in the article which uses that name.

Discuss here. UmpireRay (talk) 02:54, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * There's no reason to have everything in the final article since it constitutes the entire tournament now. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:25, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * If the final is the entire tournament (which it is), surely then there's no point in separate articles for the exact same thing? I think it makes sense that it is consolidated into the final article, because that's what the final (which is also the tournament) is being referred to as by Canada Soccer and The Canadian Press. If you disagree on that being the correct name, or it becomes clear that just Canadian Championship (not final) is used to refer to the tournament/final, then still I think the contents of this Final article (which actually reflect the format of the tournament) should be merged into the 2020 Canadian Championship article.
 * Either way, if we can agree the final constitutes the entire tournament, then the tournament and final don't need separate articles presenting the exact same info. UmpireRay (talk) 07:51, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I do agree that the final constitutes the entire championship, since the qualification to the final is just via the regular seasons of the two respective leagues. Thus the two pages should definitely be merged. Although, if it does get merged, what happens to all that info on the former format? Does it just get all deleted, or does it remain in some way? Also shouldn't the combined article be called the "2020 Canadian Championship" rather than "2020 Canadian Championship Final"? boldblazer (talk) 08:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The former format can still be detailed in a blurb like it is now. I don't think the entire schedule of every game of the former format is necessary, just an explanation of how it worked, as is done for other events reformatted due to the pandemic, like the 2020 Canadian Premier League season. This can be expanded to include more detail if necessary.
 * I listed two instances (official and media) of it being referred to as Canadian Championship Final, which I think is preferable for that reason. After reformatting, the name of the event that will actually take place is the 2020 Canadian Championship Final, and that's what the article's title should be. I realize the consensus or common name might end up being decided as 2020 Canadian Championship. In that case, the article should still be about the updated format will discussing the previous format and all the relevant developments up to this point, and the Final article redirecting to the main one, since it would just be a duplicate. UmpireRay (talk) 11:36, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * In one of those instances it's listed as Canadian Championship final, with a lower case. This article can redirect to the tournament page just as easily as the other way around and it makes more sense to have the other page be the destination as it will discuss more than simply one match. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Generally agree on the merger as it has been proposed. I think the destination article should be 2020 Canadian Championship, based on the reasons given by Boldblazer and Walter Görlitz. --The Neon Narwhal (talk) 18:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree with consensus above, all content at 2020 Canadian Championship with a full match section under Final. Radagast (talk) 20:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't want to get in the way of consensus here, I support a merge into 2020 Canadian Championship. UmpireRay (talk) 22:49, 14 August 2020 (UTC)