Talk:2020 European Masters (2019–20 season)

seedings
What exactly are the seedings based on here? Anyone have a source stating the seeding list, and the fact there's only 32? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:51, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snooker_world_rankings_2019/2020#cite_ref-7 - Seeding revision 6, 32 seeds are used for this event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.85.52 (talk) 22:35, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * According to whom? I haven't seen an official seeding list. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 22:41, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * If you check that list (while factoring in Jimmy Robertson as the #1 seed as defending champion) against the first round of qualifying, you can see the top 32 ranked players were seeded into the corresponding positions for the event, then players outside the top 32 were drawn randomly. The players after O'Sullivan all moved up a spot, due to his non-participation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.85.52 (talk) 07:52, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * But we need reliable sources for seedings, not just your own WP:OR. I'd actually assume there were 64 seeded players, just looking at the draw for qualifying, without using our world rankings article as a base. Have you got an external source for the seedings? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * There was not 64 seeds. Mei Xiwen would have been the 64th seed, and would have played the winner of Jimmy Robertson (#1) and Martin O'Donnell, in the second round of qualifying, (if there were 64 seeds, and they won their first match, then #1 would've played #64, #2 v #63, etc.), but the draw didn't work like this because there were only 32 seeds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.85.52 (talk) 13:41, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * but that is still original research. The only RS that I found was snooker.org which lists all players by seeding. We can't just have a cutoff because it suits you. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Snooker.org usually lists the seeding/ranking for all players, it doesn't mean there were 64 or 128 seeds for this event. We don't have a cutoff because it "suits" me, (note: I had noting to do with adding the 32 seeds for this event, I was just answering your original question), we have a cutoff at 32 seeds for this event because that is how this event was structured. Look at the drawn, #1 could only play #32 in the round of 32, anything after the #33 ranked played were drawn randomly, which means there were only 32 seeds. It's the same format used for the upcoming German Masters. Unlike the UK Championship for example, that has a flat 128 draw, (#1 v #128, #2 v #127, etc.)


 * that is still OR. I don't really know why we are listing the seedings here if we don't have a source backing that up. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:42, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't see how it's OR, when it's obvious by simply looking at the draw for both the European and German Masters, that is how they're structured. Is there a linked source for every snooker tournament wiki page with seeds? Anyways, I believe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jamiecameron00 was the editor that added the seedings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.85.52 (talk) 16:12, 27 January 2020 (UTC)