Talk:2020 Salvadoran political crisis

Coup templates
Hi! Best regards. If possible, I was meaning to ask further about the reasons of why the crsis could be considered a coup. Given the disagreement that there has been over related pages, I have thought that it's important to take particular caution about this. Many thanks in advance! --NoonIcarus (talk) 02:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The definition of a self coup states A self-coup … is a form of coup d'état or putsch in which a nation's leader, having come to power through legal means, dissolves or renders powerless the national legislature and unlawfully assumes extraordinary powers not granted under normal circumstances. 1.) "[R]enders powerless the national legislature" – Bukele sent in the Army to the Legislative Assembly to intimidate and pressure them to pass a loan from the United States he wanted, effectively forcing the legislature to do something with nothing they could do about it. 2.) "[U]nlawfully assumes extraordinary powers not granted under normal circumstances" – Bukele is allowed to convene the legislature like he did when he invoked article 167 of the constitution, but he is not allowed to send the military into the legislature, especially to intimidate politicians to vote a certain way. He later threatened to invoke article 87 (which allows the people to revolt to restore constitutional order) if the legislators did not convene in a week to approve the loan, which would not have disrupted constitutional order. The Legislative Assembly has called the event a coup, the Supreme Court denounced Bukele's actions as illegal, and sources from the LA Times, BBC, El País, the University of Pittsburgh, and openDemocracy have labeled the event as a coup or self coup attempt. ARENA has subsequently compared it to the 2021 US Capitol storming which is also commonly labeled as a coup or self coup attempt. --Pizzaking13 (talk) 06:12, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I understand. I'm wary of this classification since there wasn't a transfer of power and the move wasn't aimed at taking power directly, as it was destined to pressure to approve a loan. Similar disputes have happened in the past in other political crises articles and even impeachment processes.


 * I see the article has been nominated for GA, I'll see if I can help with it in the future. Best regards. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:26, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 29 March 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Vpab15 (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

– Per WP:COMMONNAME as all sources and news outlets refer to the 2020 Salvadoran political crisis as "9F," standing for 9 February, similar to 20-N. Pizzaking13 (talk) 18:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * 2020 Salvadoran political crisis → 9F
 * 9F → 9F (disambiguation)
 * Oppose 1) What's the evidence that this is the long-run primary topic of "9F" in English-language sources? I don't think it is based on Google search / Google Scholar results. 2) The term "9F" lacks recognizability compared to the current title, which lets the reader know what it's about. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  23:50, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The current title meets WP:CRITERIA in a way that "9F" would not. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

What happened about the proposed loan in the end ?
Did El Salvador apply for it ? How did the US respond ? -- Beardo (talk) 04:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)