Talk:2020 Summer Olympics/Archive 3

Mauritania
Why is Mauritania listed as 0 for participants and a blank line in nations? There’s nothing listed on this page or the Mauritania at the Olympics page to explain why. (The Mauritania at the 2020 Olympics page doesn’t exist). Should this not be explained somewhere? Canuckguy (talk) 23:25, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Nobody knows (for the moment). They have not entered for universality places in athletics and swimming…--Arorae (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The IOC published the entry lists per NOC and Mauritania appears with two competitors in athletics (Abidine Abidine in men's 5000 metres and Houleye Ba in women's 100 metres). Jonas kam (talk) 21:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * as you can see, even before reading your answer (thanks a lot) I had already added Abedine to Athletics 5000m. I still do not understand why some athletes are on the IOC site and not on WA site (Road to Tokyo), as IOC entries are based on federations entries. thanks a lot again.--Arorae (talk) 22:26, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Is Mauritania going to the Olympics or not? Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 03:22, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yet it is. With 2 athletes.--Arorae (talk) 07:23, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Confirmed: Naruhito will open the Tokyo Olympics in 2020
Nemzeti Sport, a Hungarian daily sports newspaper, confirmed on its website that Emperor Naruhito will open the Olympics. --2A01:36D:1200:457F:3C3B:8CAF:B12F:729E (talk) 12:57, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Needed redirects
Can someone write a program to fill in all missing redirects for the olympics using 2021? Any article about these olympics which has a title containing the number 2020 should have a corresponding redirect of 2021, and any redirects to such articles with the number 2020 should also have the corresponding 2021 redirects. Animal lover 666 (talk) 14:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Because they are using 2020 Olympics articles as 2021 Olympics is a redirect being postponed to a year due to the pandemic. Please see Category:Redirects from alternative names for the list. ApprenticeWiki   work  22:22, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * See User:PrimeHunter/2021 Summer Olympics for a list. It doesn't include redirects with 2020. I'm not sure we need 2021 redirects for titles with a "subtitle" after an en dash, e.g. Athletics at the 2021 Summer Olympics – Women's shot put. Some have two, e.g. Football at the 2021 Summer Olympics – Men's tournament – Group A. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:38, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, Russia at the 2021 Summer Olympics is a reasonable search term (the parallel 2020 page being a redirect to Russian Olympic Committee athletes at the 2020 Summer Olympics). Animal lover 666 (talk) 20:36, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2021
2409:4053:2D18:4E69:0:0:13C8:CC04 (talk) 09:38, 18 July 2021 (UTC) The colour of india in world map of number of athletes is blue but the numbers suggest that it should be green i request to change the colour as per the number
 * The map image is not technically part of this article. It's an external item, located on the Commons, which is inserted into the page. You need to ask User:Sangjinhwa to update the image, which can be found at File:2020 Summer Olympics team numbers.svg. Animal lover 666 (talk) 11:47, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Olympics should have been cancelled for health protection reasons!
Surely due to the ongoing global Coronavirus pandemic it would have been more sensible to cancel the 2020 Olympic games, rather than postpone them to 2021.

This would have reduced the risk to both the people of Japan, the competing athletes and the media personnel who are covering the games.

To allow for this, the IOC could have awarded the 2024 games to Japan, and the 2028 games to Paris instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:c7f:28cd:7e00:dd5d:31b0:84:b7fe (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * From the top of this page: "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 2020 Summer Olympics article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." --David Biddulph (talk) 01:59, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Japan resigned or was punished in 1940?
On the page about the 1964 Olympics, it is said that the IOC punished Japan for the attack on China, with the withdrawal of the 1940 Games from the country, which was then relocated to Helsinki. And later canceled due to war. However here it is said that Japan has renounced to host such an event due to the war. What is correct? Historicallyeditor (talk) 15:56, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The sourced material here indicates Japan withdrew from hosting the 1940 Olympics, not that their hosting privilege was revoked as punishment. If you are referring to the second sentence in the 1964 Olympics lead, I don't think it is communicating that Japan was punished by the IOC for its war in China, but perhaps it could use clarification. --Scuoise (talk) 15:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

"List of 2020 Summer Olympics medal winners" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect List of 2020 Summer Olympics medal winners. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 24 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 17:18, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2021
Change "Uzbekistan (635)" to "Uzbekistan (65)" 2600:1700:B2A1:6ED0:F875:B9E6:CC71:8021 (talk) 18:27, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Animal lover 666 (talk) 18:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

India incorrectly coloured on map
India is sending 120 competitors; but on the map showing participating NOCs and contingent sizes, India is coloured blue which is for 30-99 Aaradhya Deotale (talk) 16:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * See section above. Animal lover 666 (talk) 18:33, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Attendance
It's early on, so I have only watched a few events, but one in particular Women's football: Netherlands vs Brazil had a fairly large number of spectators in the seats. While our article states "Attendance: 0", I assume "attendance" in this context refers to official or paid attendance. Should we expect our readers to just accept 0 attendance figures without explanation and expect them to ignore the fact they just saw what appeared to be a few hundred people in the seats at that match? Should our articles have some kind note about this?

Also does anyone have an idea who all those spectators were? Special, honored guests? Press, staff, athletes or others with credentials who just had some free time or otherwise didn't need to be there (or shouldn't have been there)? Press, staff, athletes or others with credentials who did have reason to be there, waiting for whatever reason? --DB1729 (talk) 18:31, 24 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The above appears to have been resolved. See here. At least one venue for women's football are allowing spectators. DB1729 (talk) 20:35, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

incorrect method of summarizing medal table
Summarized medal table in this article is wrong due to wordings used. For instance, as of now, there are 2 NOCs at joint 10th place, but only 1 of them are shown in this article as 10th, and other 10th place is lumped together with rest and are summarized as "11th to 28th". That is incorrect since other NOC is also in 10th place, and to say they are at 11th or below is misinformation. This happens whenever more than 10 teams share places at or above 10th, since this article shows only 10 places. Solution (unless article wants to show more than 10) is to  change the words "11th to ..." to "Nth to ...", whenever more than 10 teams share "N" place at or above 10th. 2402:4000:2382:CA0B:48DB:50BF:A506:2 (talk) 22:56, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Participants
Arent the "Participating national Olympic committee teams" and "Number of athletes by National Olympic Committee" lists completely redundant? With the exception of the Refugee Team they display the exact same information. Also wouldnt a diagram like this help illustrate the team distribution? jonas (talk) 12:37, 25 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, and yes. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 14:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Schedule mention on the main page
Should it be worth of mention under the "Event scheduling" title that men's basketball final will be played before bronze medal match, against the tradition? BleuDXXXIV (talk) 05:23, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem very important to me. HiLo48 (talk) 05:26, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * But note that I edited the basketball at the 2020 Summer Olympics to show the 5x5 gold medal match will be played ahead of the bronze medal match. Hoof Hearted (talk) 20:05, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

W.r.t the edit made removing the map I edited on 2020 Summer Olympics
Moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto (talk). 20:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

I noticed that you [DeFacto] removed my map on the 2020 Summer Olympics wikipage. I have undone it and I request you to please consult me next time, requesting me or adding an active discussion regarding the map's distortion.I will definitely correct it, but please also bear in mind the numerous hours the original mapmaker put in to make it. Regards Aaradhya Deotale (talk) 20:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , WP:BRD says you need to get consensus before restoring it. -- DeFacto (talk). 20:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

"Team GB" edit
Referring to this sentence from the article: The Olympic association of the United Kingdom continues to use the misnomers of "Great Britain" and "Team GB" for its team name. I removed this with the edit summary not relevant to Tokyo 2020; the UK/GB distinction and naming issue go all the way back to the UN and ISO, and are discussed on other articles. It was then added back with the edit summary as it adds context to the anomaly in this article.

Don't want to revert a revert without posting here, but what is the Tokyo 2020-relevant context? As far as I know, the UK has used the identical name "Team GB" / "Great Britain" for several decades, and this is "more of the same". Any information might as well go on the Great Britain at the Olympics article, since there is no new information here specific to Tokyo 2020. The citation also doesn't have anything to do with Tokyo 2020. Zowayix001 (talk) 20:26, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I have removed it with edit summary "The GB/UK naming might be mentioned in Great Britain at the 2020 Summer Olympics but not here unless there is major controversy about it for these Olympics". PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , I added that as a simple fact to help readers who may not be familiar with the idiosyncrasies of the UK's make-up and naming anomalies., the primary role of the article is to explain the topic for the reader, not only to document controversies. I'm sure that if the US ran a team named just "California", as that is the most populous of its united states, there would be a sentence to describe that for those expecting to find "US" or "USA" in the list of teams. Well that is the situation here with the team from the UK - Great Britain is the most populous of its united kingdoms, but not the name of the whole union.
 * I thought this one sentence added value for the benefit of those wondering why the UK had not entered a team at Tokyo. Perhaps we are assuming that every English-speaker will inevitably be well-versed in the complexities of the terminology of the British Isles . -- DeFacto (talk). 06:43, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Great Britain has 97% of the UK population so California is a poor analogy. There may be about as many people who know which country Great Britain refers to as United Kingdom. There are many kingdoms. A direct translation of Great Britain is the name of the country in many languages. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , no, the analogy was more to do with comparing the US and just one of its states with the UK and just one of its kingdoms. And the point here anyway is whether to add a neutral sentence to help others, and not whether to try and right great wrongs. -- DeFacto (talk). 12:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * "misnomer" is negative, not neutral, and piping "Olympic association of the United Kingdom" to the actual name British Olympic Association is misleading, giving the impression they don't use the organization name in the team name when that's exactly what they do. The whole sentence was apparently designed to imply they ought to say United Kingdom. That's not for Wikipedia to judge. As far as I know they have been named Great Britain in every Summer and Winter Olympics since 1896 so the story here is that one of 205 participants still uses the name they always used. That doesn't belong in the main article. I don't buy that readers will be unaware what Great Britain refers to. And anyway, the team also represents many Crown dependencies and overseas territories which aren't officially part of the United Kingdom. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , we're getting bogged-down in irrelevancies here. The wording isn't the main point (btw I disagree with some of your arguments on this, but that's still not the point), the main point is whether the article readers could benefit from a neutral sentence explaining the anomaly.
 * Why not offer a sentence that you consider is neutral and gets the point across without sounding like a judgement and even if it's the name they've always used. -- DeFacto (talk). 14:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If anyone is actually unsure what Great Britain means then the link says it in the opening sentence. It just doesn't belong here or the thousands of other Olympic articles which mention Great Britain but aren't about them. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm not disagreeing with any of that, which equally applies to almost everything else in that section being covered by the respective team articles. Should we delete the whole section to be consistent do you think? -- DeFacto (talk). 17:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * All the other stories are about news at the 2020 Summer Olympics. I don't think they should be removed and I don't equate them to a name which hasn't changed for maybe 125 years. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * We need to be careful about using "misnomer" and that sort of thing. Athletes from Northern Ireland can choose to represent either the UK or Ireland, and in a sense the use of "Great Britain" makes sense when this is considered. doktorb wordsdeeds 09:44, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , a good point, but it entirely supports the point of my addition. Indeed athletes from NI can choose "to represent either the UK or Ireland", which is why it might be helpful to clarify for those not aware of the naming confusion, that indeed "Great Britain", despite appearances, does not really mean just Great Britain, it means the whole of the UK - which contains both Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Perhaps you could offer an alternate form of words to avoid the connotations you perceive. -- DeFacto (talk). 13:06, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * We need to be careful about using "misnomer" and that sort of thing. Athletes from Northern Ireland can choose to represent either the UK or Ireland, and in a sense the use of "Great Britain" makes sense when this is considered. doktorb wordsdeeds 09:44, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , a good point, but it entirely supports the point of my addition. Indeed athletes from NI can choose "to represent either the UK or Ireland", which is why it might be helpful to clarify for those not aware of the naming confusion, that indeed "Great Britain", despite appearances, does not really mean just Great Britain, it means the whole of the UK - which contains both Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Perhaps you could offer an alternate form of words to avoid the connotations you perceive. -- DeFacto (talk). 13:06, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Calendar proposed change
Add a footnote to July 26 and 27 saying "Rowing events on July 26 were moved up to July 25 due to 2021_Pacific_typhoon_season. Rowing and some archery events on July 27 were postponed to July 28. Surfing events were moved up to July 27 to take advantage of the waves." https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/archery-individual-events-rescheduled-after-bad-weather-forecast-2021-07-25/ https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31891548/tokyo-2020-tokyo-storm-hands-surfing-finals-new-date https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31872572/tokyo-braces-typhoon-reschedules-olympic-rowing-events

This kind of rescheduling is extremely rare, because tropical storms never used to be a factor at Olympic venues. I do remember that at Beijing / Hong Kong, the individual show jumping finals were delayed due to an early heavy rain band from Typhoon Nuri (2008), but it was only by a few hours, which places it into typical rain delay territory. (The main typhoon made landfall in Hong Kong the next day.) Flight delays due to Tropical Storm Kammuri (2008) had previously delayed the arrival of Great Britain's horses: same Olympics. (talk) 09:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC) - Tenebris 66.11.165.101 (talk) 10:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The current number of Cumulative total [events] at the Calendar section also should be changed - from 70 to 72.

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2021
but the Tokyo Games will be North Macedonia's first appearance at the Summer Olympics under its new name.

Please change this to

but the Tokyo Games were North Macedonia's first appearance at the Summer Olympics under its new name.

64.203.186.112 (talk) 16:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I changed it to "are" since the games are currently ongoing. Terasail [✉️] 17:02, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Lead of the lead
Not just relevant to this article, however a great example.

Visitors to this page have to read all of the following;

"Japan 2020" and "Japan 2021" redirect here. For general events in Japan in those years, see 2020 in Japan and 2021 in Japan. "2020 Olympics", "2021 Olympics", "2021 Summer Olympics", "Tokyo 2020", and "Tokyo 2021" redirect here. For the Summer Paralympics, see 2020 Summer Paralympics. For the Winter Youth Olympics, see 2020 Winter Youth Olympics. Current sports event This article documents a current Summer Olympic Games. Information may change rapidly as the event progresses. Initial news reports, scores, or statistics may be unreliable. The last updates to this article may not reflect the most current information. Please feel free to improve this article (but note that updates without valid and reliable references will be removed) or discuss changes on the talk page. (July 2021) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)

Redirect are almost pointless here, some want the page and will receive a redirect breadcrumb anyway, some will fix their own obvious error. Then the notice, make it collapsed, short and much less obtrusive.

Add both of these to MOS etc. Thoughts comments queries The Original Filfi (talk) 07:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I have replaced the long hatnotes with the below use of Redirect-several. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:24, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2021
Can you please add how they used video game music during the opening ceremony such as chrono trigger sonic and final fantasy Seven supS (talk) 01:50, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, video games are a major source of revenue in Japan. Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 01:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌ This is already covered in 2020 Summer Olympics opening ceremony with several sources and a full list of the 19 video game tracks. Rodney Baggins (talk) 07:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2021
Change 2020 Summer Olympics to 2021 Summer Olympics As this year is 2021 and it was delayed a year and should have been updated a year ago and tonight is the opening ceremony 71.173.64.106 (talk) 16:29, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌, they are keeping the 2020 Summer Olympics for marketing and branding purposes MSalmon (talk) 13:57, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe something about this quirk should be in the lede. Kdammers (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * 2nd paragraph says: "Originally scheduled to take place from 24 July to 9 August 2020, the event was postponed in March 2020 as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, and is held largely behind closed doors with no public spectators permitted under the state of emergency. Despite being rescheduled for 2021, the event retains the Tokyo 2020 name for marketing and branding purposes." Animal lover 666 (talk) 18:28, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with the previous comment. The event is the 2020 Summer Olympics even though it is being held in 2021. The lead has good language to note this clarification. In addition, the official website of the Olympics (https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/en/) still calls this the 2020 Summer Olympics. Jurisdicta (talk) 06:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

English or American English
Japan is no more occupied by American and when they say the Alphabet they say Zed not Zee, transcripted to Japanese kana.--Arorae (talk) 23:59, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Olympic games 2020-21
With all respect to the Japanese authorities wish to keep the Olympic Games 2020 name, it makes absolutely no sense as we are here in 2021! For at least, these games should be renamed to "Olympic Games 2020-21" as it happened to the most of the other events that were postponed because of the COVID pandemic - Chess Candidates Tournament is a good example. All I'm asking is some common sense.--2601:1C0:CB01:2660:182D:6DE6:ADEB:A0D (talk) 01:43, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It is still called Tokyo 2020... and that is what the page should remain. Spanneraol (talk) 02:05, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * @Spanneraol. Called by whom? Tokyo authorities? And I didn't tell a word about Tokyo 2020- I was talking about the global events that happens every two years on this planet, called Olympic Games. The local authorities can still call it Tokyo, Moscow or even Omuamua 2017 but the global community see them as Olympic Games that happen in a specific period of time.

I believe there are hundreds of publications can be found with mentions of Olympic Games occurring in 2021. I really don't understand the logic behind Olympic Games 2020 name on Wikipedia - maybe it is somehow necessary for someone's agenda? Here is a couple of examples:

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31912612/olympics-2021-live-updates-usa-women-hoops-extends-win-streak-tatjana-schoenmaker-sets-swimming-world-record-track-field-begins

https://www.vulture.com/article/2021-tokyo-olympics-daily-schedule.html--

2601:1C0:CB01:2660:182D:6DE6:ADEB:A0D (talk) 04:33, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


 * If there's an agenda, it's the agenda of the International Olympic Committee, the global body that runs the Games.


 * https://olympics.com/en/


 * HiLo48 (talk) 04:41, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Language template
I first added the American English template on 10 October 2019 for reasons of consistency and no-one objected at the time. User:Arorae removed it on 22 July 2021 saying "no STRONGNAT here" with no discussion or consensus. , your edit summary, on deleting my post on your Talk page without a response, said "there is an article with opened discussion". Whatever do you mean by that? On reverting User:Sportsfan 1234 here, you said "discuss first before reverting : discussion was already open". Again, what do you mean? Please direct us to this discussion that is supposed to be already open! My explanation for using the American English template is that (1) we do need consistency within the article (per MOS:ARTCON) – at the moment the spellings are all over the place, and (2) Japanese students tend to learn standard American English at school so I would argue that there is WP:STRONGNAT here. Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:59, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

"Medals by sport" & "Medals by day" tables
I've opened a similarly named section at Talk:Israel at the 2020 Summer Olympics.

Main issue: The need, of lack thereof, of "Medals by sport" & "Medals by day" tables for NOC's with only a few medals, sometime a single one. As showed me,  has been adding them to every medaling NOC, such as Argentina, Azerbaijan, Finland & Ivory Coast.

Take Portugal for example. Currently, their Medalists section looks like this:


 * width="78%" align="left" valign="top" |


 * width="22%" align="left" valign="top" |


 * width="22%" align="left" valign="top" |

In my opinion, so long as no more than one medal has been won by the NOC in any single day, there is no need for the "Medals by day" table. In the same way, so long as no more than one medal has been won by the NOC in any single sport, there is no need for the "Medals by sport" table.

I believe that Will agree with me, at least in part, and that  who has recently joined the edit war will oppose it. Deancarmeli (talk) 10:10, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This is currently being discussed on the relevant Wikiproject here. Please engage in the discussion there, so the discussion is in one place rather than being spread over several talk pages. This way we should be able to reach a consensus. Kaffe42 (talk) 19:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

This page has error
Someone wrote, "According to the South Korea's Olympic Committee, the IOC will apply the same rules if the Rising Sun Flag is raised." However, it is incorrect. A Japanese diet member confirmed to IOC whether AP report was true or not on the 21st July. IOC replied the answer to Japanese government. They answered IOC hasn't been accepting South Korea's Olympic Committee's demanding. Also rising the rising sun flag up is no problem, and South Korean media report is not true. The diet member tweeted IOC reply. So the AP report has error. According to IOC, the rising sun flag is no problem. Could you please delete the false explanation and 207, 211, 213 links. (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Selselumi20 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * If you can provide reliable source(s) to back this up, it would probably be better addressed at the main article (see Concerns and controversies at the 2020 Summer Olympics) before changing the summary here. Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply. Please check this Tweet.(talk)
 * https://twitter.com/yamazogaikuzo/status/1417722597756735493

Rodney Baggins Could you delete false explanations on this page? I mention this page. I haven't mentioned Concerns and controversies at the 2020 Summer Olympics. Thank you. Selselumi20 (talk)

This page has error 2
Concerns and controversies area has terrible error... Who wrote that? I wonder why the Tokyo Olympic games page is written by South Korean's war impressions?? Could you delete all of it if Wikipedia is right. Selselumi20 (talk)
 * A quick search on Google gives many results on the Rising Sun flag controversy, and it is already well sourced, so it should definitely have a place on the page. The entire 'concerns and controversies' section seems like it's written objectively for the most part, and I don't see any major faults in the section. Maybe if you could elaborate, and tell what specifically is incorrect and why that should be deleted, we could go forward with it then. But I don't currently see any reason to delete anything. Kaffe42 (talk) 15:37, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Kaffe42 Thank you for the reply. However, I am 100% sure that the rising sun flag was no problem in South Korea. I lived in South Korea long time ago. Nobody mentioned the flag even if someone showed it on TV programs. Have you ever lived there? If you haven't, your support South Korean’s propaganda what made up by a Korean football player in 2011. So could you delete that false explanations? Or Wikipedia accepts writing false explanations?

Kaffe42 Do you know why this page is full of South Korean's war impressions? As you may know, the Olympic games are attended by a lot of countries. Don't you think that it is strange the page mainly mentions one country's impression? What do you think of it?
 * The OP is right, this looks like a violation of WP:CSECTION, and gives too much coverage to topics which are minor in the context of a summary of the entire games. The Rising Sun "controversy" and other things related to the Covid situation in Japan should be rolled into the Development and preparation section, with less prose than they currently occupy. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 16:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, considering that the Concerns and controversies section is supposed to be a summary of the Concerns and controversies at the 2020 Summer Olympics article, it probably needs cutting down considerably, including the contentious subject of the Rising Sun controversy, which can probably be left intact in the main controversies article unless any reliable evidence to the contrary can be unearthed. : Unfortunately Twitter is not a reliable source. Rodney Baggins (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Selselumi20, your experiences are anecdotal and unfortunately not a viable source. There are plenty of reliable sources that show that the topic was some kind of controversy, so it should be mentioned as a controversy regardless of what we think of the topic. Amakuru does make a good point, and I would support cutting down the controversy section and move the information to Concerns and controversies at the 2020 Summer Olympics, as the section does appear to be significantly longer than previous Olympics pages' sections. Kaffe42 (talk) 17:13, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Amakuru Thank you for your opinion. This page administrators seem like they want to mention politics more than the Tokyo Olympic games. As a person who lived in South Korea, I feel like the administrators particularly seem like they try to mention South Korean's impressions.


 * Rodney Baggins Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, media reports are also unreliable sources. AP probably asked the South Korea's Olympic Committee, but the diet member asked Seiko Hashimoto who is the chairman of JOC. Then JOC asked IOC whether the report was true or not. Whichever, Wikipedia shouldn't accept writing unreliable sources such as AP's report. Selselumi20 (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20


 * Kaffe42 Thank you for your support! Yes, that sounds perfect. Wikipedia should be opened for world wide. It shouldn't be one country's impressions. Thank you Selselumi20 (talk) 17:29, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20

Podium sweeps
A couple of editors have objected to the podium sweep table. Perhaps it is a bit random and trivial for the main article. Maybe it could be included in the 2020 Summer Olympics medal table article instead? For consistency, this could be done for the other Olympics articles too. Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:34, 4 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I think that the compromise of including the Podium sweeps information in the 2020 Summer Olympics medal table article and previous games' articles of its kind is fair. Deancarmeli (talk) 10:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I've improved the podium sweep table by adding sources and intro text/wikilink. I suggest that the table could be moved out of the main article when the Games have finished (with tense change in intro text: "There were...") How does that sound? Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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Concerns and controversies section
That area mentions politics, it is not the Olympic games. When will Wikipedia administrator fix it? Selselumi20 (talk) 07:41, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20
 * Unfortunately politics pervades everything in life, even the Olympic Games, but I agree that this article should concentrate on the more positive aspects of the Games and less on the niggly distractions. The Concerns and controversies section needs cutting down considerably (and I notice someone has added a load of new stuff this morning...) but most of the information can be retained in the side article. I'll try to look at this later today, time permitting, but can't promise anything. Maybe someone else would like to help? Rodney Baggins (talk) 09:29, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I would suggest that the section needs to be limited to one paragraph for each section in the main article if possible, i.e.
 * para1: summary of ORGANISATIONAL ISSUES
 * para2: summary of ENVIRONMENT / H&S CONCERNS
 * para3: summary of POLITICAL & HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES
 * para4: summary of ISSUES RELATING TO CEREMONIES
 * para5: summary of ISSUES ARISING DURING THE GAMES
 * There should be no need to sub-divide into subsections (we currently have one level 3 heading: "Related to the Organizing Committee") and we should place a hidden note at the top asking people not to expand the section without visiting the other article first. Rodney Baggins (talk) 16:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a great idea. Some of the sections (ie the one about the Rising Sun controversy) are almost longer than the sections on the main controversy article, so it might be worth it to copy/paste some of it into the main article. I'll be willing to help out if needed. Either way, your suggestion looks great. Kaffe42 (talk) 16:37, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Rodney Baggins, Kaffe42 Thank you for the reply and suggestion. I can't find similar articles on 1998 and1972 Olympic games pages. I suggest deleting this section. If someone want to write it, it should be different page. And this page should be same sections as same as the past Olympic games pages. Other Olympic games pages focus on the games. Thank you for your support. Selselumi20 (talk) 17:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20
 * Rodney Baggins Thank you for the suggestion. However, as you might know, the Olympic Games don't allow any kind of political protests. So having politics section on this page does not match the Olympic charter. What do you think of it?
 * @Selselumi20 It doesn't matter that the Olympic Games doesn't allow it, because Wikipedia is not affiliated with the Olympic Games. Wikipedia just reports it. Anyway, I have been trying to significantly trim down the controversy section, and this is what I've come up with: User:Kaffe42/Olympics. Anyone should feel free to make any changes. If nobody has any objections by tomorrow, I will paste this into the controversy section. Kaffe42 (talk) 20:22, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Kaffe42/Kaffe42 Thank you for the reply and support! I've checked first paragraph so far. I've thanked your support, but there are a lot of information what you wrote. Is there same articles past Olympic games pages? In that page, it looks like there are issues what there are no relation with the Tokyo Olympic games. For example, I have no idea #6 link what the connection with this Olympics. And Seiko Hashimoto didn't say "I regret it and think I should be careful". Is that your translation? And the rising sun flag is not the imperial flag. It has been using for festivals as well even now.
 * Kaffe42/Kaffe42 Please add this issue as well. South Korean banner was banned by IOC.

@Amakuru/Amakuru Hello, I would like to ask your opinion. What do you think of this User:Kaffe42/Olympics page? I feel like it seems like it is maliciousness...
 * I am grateful that you've made some progress with reworking the section and will have a closer look at your sandbox later. It looks as if we need to tread carefully with sourcing and attributing information, per WP:VOICE, e.g. rather than saying "this happened" we should probably say "X news outlet reported that this happened" for the more sensitive issues (e.g. Rising Sun Flag ). ​I also want to check that anything we remove in this process is contained in the Concerns and controversies article so it doesn't go astray. Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:34, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for checking! I would like to add these issues. Issue1, Issue2, Issue3, Issue4, issue5, issue6 and Issue7. I think it would be fair. Selselumi20 (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi20

Hello, I cannot login Selselumi20 somehow, so I just created another one. By the way, I haven't find those issues. Please check it Issue1, Issue2, Issue3, Issue4, issue5, issue6 and Issue7. Let's add those issues in the paragraph. Also, I recommend checking this article. https://www.newsdirectory3.com/japan-rising-sun-flag-allowed-to-be-brought-into-the-competition-venue-korean-sport-olympic-committee-ioc-promises-ban-japan-international-hankyoreh-japan/. Thank you. Selselumi2020 (talk) 11:34, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Selselumi2020

Hello, did you check it? Some of sentences look like it comes from Twitter. I cannot find same articles in Japanese. So I think that suspicious parts should be remove. What do you think of it?

Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2021
Please can I edit. I will right.

It’s Australia’s highest medals won in an Olympic Games. 118.208.246.132 (talk) 04:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grayson Indica (talk • contribs)

The discipline count seems to be wrong - It should be 51 instead of 50
According to the passage of '2020 Summer Olympic Sports Programme' on this page, it said there are 50 disciplines. However, I count it myself and found the number is 51, is there anything I am wrong? 1	3×3 basketball 2	Archery 3	Artistic Gymnastics 4	Artistic Swimming 5	Athletics 6	Badminton 7	Baseball 8	Basketball 9	Beach Volleyball 10	BMX Freestyle 11	BMX Racing 12	Boxing 13	Diving 14	Dressage 15	Eventing 16	Fencing 17	Field Hockey 18	Football 19	Freestyle 20	Golf 21	Greco-Roman 22	Handball 23	Judo 24	Jumping 25	Kata 26	Kumite 27	Marathon Swimming 28	Modern Pentathlon 29	Mountain Biking 30	Rhythmic 31	Road Cycling 32	Rowing 33	Rugby 34	Sailing 35	Shooting 36	Skateboarding 37	Slalom 38	Softball 39	Sport Climbing 40	Sprint 41	Surfing 42	Swimming 43	Table Tennis 44	Taekwondo 45	Tennis 46	Track Cycling 47	Trampoline 48	Triathlon 49	Volleyball 50	Water Polo 51	Weightlifting


 * Baseball/softball is a single discipline. Source. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 11:59, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe baseball and softball are actually considered two separate disciplines, but Greco-Roman and freestyle wrestling are both under wrestling. Kaffe42 (talk) 09:23, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The IOC programme I just linked shows baseball/softball as a single discipline, and Greco-Roman and freestyle as separate disciplines in wrestling. What's the source of your belief? -- Jonel (Speak to me) 13:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Sometimes there are multiple disciplines happening within a single day

Mistake in the medal counter for August 4th.
I made a count in how many medals there were today and saw that the wiki page had 27 medals, but then I found out 25 medals would be given. The mistake is in the Athletics section of the page, it should have 6 medal events but it instead has 8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AG1822 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source to support the medals count on August 4th? If you do, cite your source to help ensure that the information being changed is correct. Jurisdicta (talk) 06:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2021
Changed the 2020 summer Olympics to 2021 Olympics hope that helps PatrykSmart01 (talk) 13:08, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


 * ❌: It is 2020 Summer Olympics only, it was just postponed to 2021 because of COVID-19 pandemic.  -ink&amp;fables  «talk»  17:48, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Tokyo Olympics motto
"United by emotions" is for tokyo paralympics. "Faster,Higher,Stronger - Together " is for tokyo paralympics

Wikipedia page shows wrong motto for tokyo olympics 2020. Please correct it. Piyush188 (talk) 09:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You are wrong, wrong and wrong. The motto is United by Emotion (capital E, no s), and it's for both the 2020 Summer Olympics and Paralympics. "Faster, Higher, Stronger – Together" is the new general Olympic motto (not for specific games). PrimeHunter (talk) 09:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)