Talk:2020s in fashion

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The youth fashion section (and other complaints)
I think that instead of the currently existent Dark Academia and Goblincore/Fairy Grunge sections, there should be a short writeup on "internet aesthetic culture" as a whole (this article was the best I could find detailing the phenomenon). Also, while this might just be me, I think the 2000s and 1980s influences section under men's clothing needs a serious revision. That third sentence is more than 3000 characters long, haha. Tridentarii3apologist (talk) 04:55, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

I concur with this. The aesthetics brought up are considered part of a broader system of "aesthetics" or "-cores" by the practitioners, online influencers, instagram, tiktok, twitter and tumblr pages. The trend in general centers around tribalism but instead of focusing on subculture or fandom culture, it draws its power from shared codes like color palettes, emulated fashion eras, etc, inviting the user to "find their aesthetic" in a way similar to the Marie Kondo precept of "choosing what sparks joy" and as a means of escapism. Academia and Fairy Grunge are only parts of the categorizations invented on social media, which also include aethereal, "art hoe", techwear/cyberpunk, cottagecore, kidcore, weirdcore and more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.178.122.159 (talk) 04:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

The 1980s section in particular, confusingly has non-80s specific items such as Ivy League cardigans and 1940s double breasted suits mentioned too. The section should be titled "period revivals" or something similar.--Mr. 123453334 (talk) 21:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

There's nothing confusing about it, if you knew anything about 1980s fashion. The double breasted 1940s style suits were revived in the 80s as businesswear, and Ivy League clothing was revived as the preppy look. 81.96.86.81 (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

"Dopamine Dressing"
I think a section should be included for this recent fashion trend called "dopamine dressing", where people wear bright colors to improve their mood. sources may include:

How To Embrace Dopamine Dressing This Summer | British Vogue

[https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/fashion/a36286827/dopamine-dressing/ What is dopamine dressing? (harpersbazaar.com)]

[https://www.today.com/style/dopamine-dressing-rcna32740 What Is 'Dopamine Dressing'? A Fashion Psychologist Breaks Down the Pinterest Style Trend (today.com)]

How 'dopamine dressing' became TikTok's latest happiness hack (nypost.com)

Camdoodlebop (talk) 00:29, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The page now says, "vibrant colored clothing had made a comeback for women in America by the spring of 2023." Is this a mistake in the dopamine dressing category? Spring 2023 has not yet occurred, making the information on the page false. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say it has been projected to be popular in 2023, or is this indeed a mistake and it's supposed to say "by the spring of 2022"? Amethystinelake (talk) 21:13, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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Belle Delphine
Considering Delphine's line of work I dont think its a good idea for her to be featured on this page was wondering if I could remove her and replace her with a different image? Secrocity (talk) 05:43, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree completely. I'll take it down. Jaeyming (talk) 15:11, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Countries
Does this article hold for the whole world, or only for countries such as the mentioned "United Kingdom, United States, and Australia"? Apokrif (talk) 19:59, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Youth Fashion section: Quality of pictures, focus, accuracy
There's a few self-uploaded pictures on this page that are both low quality and are not strong examples of the trends they describe (Dark Acadamia, fairy grunge clothing). Furthermore, does this article focus too narrowly on western countries/trends (UK, US, Aus.)? I'd also like to bring attention to a few areas that seem problematic: 1. There's no actual description of what 'Coquette' is, and I'm wondering if it is a necessary part of the article 2. If we are to mention "patterns reminiscent of the preppy look of the early 1980s" then the accompanying image should reflect this statement 3. "Unlike dark academia, light academia is about positivity, self-care, and the warm and pleasurable parts of life." What is the reference on this? 4. Is Stormzy wearing a black undershirt fully reflective of Hip-hop/Vamp/Opium fashion? 5. Some of the gallery photos are higher quality and well-executed examples of youth fashion. Should these have a place higher in the article? 2604:3D09:1A7E:3800:8952:BF0C:E400:444E (talk) 17:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Defining 2023 as "mid-2020s"
I think it's a bit premature and silly to define the "mid-2020s" as "2023-." The "mid" years of a decade are usually x5 and x6; possibly x4. 2605:AD80:21:8018:4C41:3E79:156F:FF13 (talk) 15:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)


 * No. There are 10 years from 2020 to 2029. Three for the early, four for the mid, and three for the late decade. 2020, 2021, and 2022 are Early. 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 are Mid. 2027, 2028, and 2029 are Late. 82.13.71.213 (talk) 20:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I vehemently disagree. If you had described 1973 as the "mid-seventies" or 1953 as "the mid-fifties," that'd be absurd. Was 2003 the mid-2000s? Or was that 2005-6? Cheerio. 2605:AD80:21:8121:BC82:9CC4:1BA0:4E01 (talk) 04:18, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It's merely a detail, but I can read 2023 as "mid-2020s", it doesn't sound absurd at all (absurd would be to call 2023 "mid-1990s", because absurd means illogical, not imprecise).
 * The issue at stake is that you guys are trying to write the History of the present, even though we are not sure yet of what the global trends of the decade are and will be. Trends are observed over time, not instantly. We'll say early 2020s to refer to an early 2020s phenomenon, and mid-2020s to refer to a mid-decade phenomenon. Right now we don't know where (when) each of those trends belong in the span of the decade. Beespoke (talk) 16:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Clean up, spam linking through references
I have started looking at the sources of this article one by one, and, when you pull the cover on this article, you realize it is mainly a page to list fashion items and links to affiliate sellers. The references section covers half the page (literally). I will be on and off here, to make sure I don't remove too much too quickly, but justified removals will be operated over time. Beespoke (talk) 15:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)