Talk:2021 British Open

Listing of amount of frames in results
Do we have any need for these, as we now have a format section? I see it's been reverted a few times, I definitely think even if the info would be suited to be in this section as well, it should be written in prose. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:51, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the argument goes that in, say, 2020 Northern Ireland Open we have eg "Best of 7 frames" in the table header. To me this brevity makes some sense in a table, but in the situation here we don't have a table. Adding a strange paragraph like "(Best of 5 frames)" makes no sense to me. We might as well say "Matches were the best of 5 frames.", which is plain English, or not bother on the basis that it's said elsewhere and obvious anyway (like 2021 Snooker Shoot Out). Nigej (talk) 19:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, like 2020 Snooker Shoot Out which is GA. I'd like to think that after the event is over, (or at the semi-finals stage) we would change this into a bracket (table). Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:06, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Personally I like the idea of back-fitting a bracket/table for the later rounds, perhaps the last-16. I think it's clearer for the reader. Nigej (talk) 19:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with using a format like the ones used on other established tournaments like the aforementioned Northern Ireland Open.
 * The structure of the templates used on articles like that works for seeded tournaments, but I would personally find that format incredibly confusing to read on this article because there's no logical flow: the winners of Matches 1 and 2 [as indicated on the template] don't play each other in the next round because Match 65 [the equivalent first match in Round 2] are neither of these players, but the seeded draw templates would make that implication to anyone who never watched the tournament, leading to a lot of revert wars from those who don't read the pages properly.
 * To use this example: per the livescores.worldsnookerdata.com website, Match 1 is Boiko vs Hamilton and Match 2 is R Williams vs Akani. In a seeded draw single-eliminatiion tournament format, Match 64 would be the winners of M1 and M2 playing for the 3rd round. However, Match 65 is Walden vs R Williams. See the confusion that will result from doing this format?
 * Personally, the format used on the Snooker Shoot-Out is fine for this page and that tournament has been around for a while now with the same format and no one has had issues with that. --CitroenLover (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, no - the draw fits as it should do. Now we know the progression, the brackets work backwards to show who beat whom to progress. The match numbers themselves are of little value. The only reason why the remain on the shootout page is because no one is interested in updating it into a bracket style. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:48, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, for reference, the "FA Cup style" draws were introduced for the British Open in 1990, and the page for that event has the bracket format, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_British_Open
 * Huh I was not aware that the British Open previously used this format. Okay then, I retract my concerns on this. That being said, if the Shoot Out pages haven't been changed, it could also be because the format there is perfectly adequate and provides all the information without needing to be converted to brackets. 😉 --CitroenLover (talk) 21:57, 20 August 2021 (UTC)