Talk:2022 Israeli legislative election

New Link For News 12 Poll
Mako Should Be Added Here> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Israeli_legislative_election#Polls — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.11.55.12 (talk) 10:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

**IMPORTANT**
Um isn't there like a new election now Because the government is resigning or Smth 2A00:A040:1A0:6D88:2478:B237:4671:DB2D (talk) 16:17, 20 June 2022 (UTC)


 * They're calling a snap election, and there has yet to be a set date for the election. The page has been updated and will continue to update as further information comes out. Wikipageedittor099 (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Should we change the title to 2022 isreali election? I did that before and it was changed Seth Korbin Cohen (talk) 21:06, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that the 2022 date isn't definitive until the Knesset actually votes on the bill dissolving on the Knesset (and it does pass). David O. Johnson (talk) 22:07, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree, it makes sense to wait until the date of the election is set, even though it is pretty much a forgone conclusion. Jacoby531 (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, understood. Thanks for the help! Seth Korbin Cohen (talk) 11:46, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Blue and White and New Hope Merger
After Blue and White merged, the party is listed on Wikipedia as B&W-NH. Will the alliance create a more formal name? (Like how Yesh Atid and Israeli Resilience ran as Blue and White) I tried to find a name online, but couldn't. Seth Korbin Cohen (talk) 20:56, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * According to The Jerusalem Post, the party is called "Blue and White – The New Hope." Here's the ref: David O. Johnson (talk) 04:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Seth Korbin Cohen (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Regarding Zandberg as a retiring MK
There seems to be some dispute regarding whether Tamar Zandberg should be listed as a retiring member. What should our criteria for retiring incumbents be? I think it should be any member of the Knesset or Minister under the Norwegian law not seeking re-election to the Knesset, which would line up with the note currently present on the section, itd also make sense since cabinet ministers and their retirements are generally notable and there's no reason to split the section.Totalstgamer (talk) 19:08, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Wrong link
On retiring incumbents, the article for Mazen Ghnaim doesn’t go to the right person as it goes to Talab Abu Arar. Can someone fix it. 78.148.39.203 (talk) 17:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The link has been fixed. Thanks David O. Johnson (talk) 19:09, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Shortening Blue and White - The New Hope
Blue and White - the New Hope seems to lengthen the infobox. There seems to be some disagreement on how we could potentially condense it. We could keep it this way, shorten it to B&W-TNH, introduce a line break between Blue and White and the New Hope (which makes the infobox a bit longer but less wide) or come up with some other solution, but we do need to figure out what we're gonna do with the name given how long it is. Totalstgamer (talk) 15:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Abbreviations are usually used in the infobox. I would prefer if we change it to "B&W–TNH", considering that these are the abbreviations of those parties. Vacant0 (talk) 18:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * there no need in "The" or in the hyphen. The name is Blue and White New Hope. Sokuya (talk) 18:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

National liberalism vs conservatism
and, please discuss on the talk page whether to use national liberalism or conservatism for Likud. Until s consensus is reached, please leave National Liberalism as that is the one currently listed and also the first one to come up on Likud’s page. Thank you and happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 15:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , I've opened an rfc on the party's talk page to help find a conclusion and resolution to this. Helper201 (talk) 16:18, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , thank you. I was just redirecting the conversation because it has been changing as recently as 9 hours ago. I personally don’t know much about the topic to have an opinion, I just wanted to prevent an edit war. Happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 19:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

I think that it needs to be switched back. The consensus was national liberalism, yet it is conservatism right now. Mr manor11 (talk) 08:11, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Primaries
, I definitely disagree. The page you are referring to only has information about 1 party and only minor information about another. There are more than 2 parties first of all. Secondly, there is only a redirect to that page from “Parties” and not the category that actually says primaries. It’s a little weird to have a page about the 2022 elections and a section about primaries without having the actual primary results and candidates. I think there could be a separate page titled something like 2022 Israeli Knesset primary, but just an article that’s labeled party list is not enough. I believe it should be added back. Thank you, Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 00:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Only two parties have actually held their primaries, so of course there won't be a lot of information on the Party lists for the 2022 Israeli legislative election article. I don't see an issue with the article as it currently exists, we're at an early stage and it'll be fleshed out once parties actually submit their lists to the CEC. The same type of article has been used for the past four Israeli elections. David O. Johnson (talk) 02:05, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As David says, that is the correct place for listing party lists. This article is definitely not. Number   5  7  10:25, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Jewish Home
I would exclude the JH+RZP hypothesis for now, since there are rumors about talks with ZS, just today Shaked confirmed that she talks with them and claimed that JH want to join them while Brodny showed skepticism about an inclusion of Otzma even in coalitions and said that he wouldnt vote for Ben-Gvir. It just does not look like very likely for now, maybe just an intention by RZP but not a real thing which is about to happen at this point

Braganza (talk) 21:39, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree. I don't think the notability of political rumors like that one is easy to demonstrate, and I want to hear the input of other editors regarding striking that section. Regardless i don't think adding our own political analysis to the article itself is a good idea Totalstgamer (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Infobox
Is the infobox currently accurate, since the party changes for MKs (e.g. Ayelet Shaked running with Jewish Home) still have to be approved by a Knesset committee? I think it should go back to status quo to before lists were submitted, at least until there is official approval. David O. Johnson (talk) 04:20, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * List submission concludes today. We should probably wait on any changes for at least a couple hours. Totalstgamer (talk) 10:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Not Running
Should we really include the Joint List, Blue and White and New Hope in the not running section if they're running under a different electoral banner? I think it might be more accurate to mention those details in a few paragraphs dedicated to the election campaign, or even as part of the list indicating which parties are running (Hadash-Ta'al and Balad would mention the dissolution of the joint list, the NUP would mention the, well, creation of the NUP). Totalstgamer (talk) 14:01, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Totalstgamer I don't think so. It doesn't make sense to include them in a list alongside parties that actually aren't running. David O. Johnson (talk) 14:08, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I'll be removing them from the list, i might start working on some sort of campaign-period section to replace them. Totalstgamer (talk) 14:12, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Election already Started
The article says that the elections will be held on November 1st, even though it has already started. 2A01:73C0:56F:4A4E:0:0:35C7:B851 (talk) 09:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 20:39, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The results are also not put in. I'm a little disappointed about that. I can't find sources about the current preliminary results. Someone should put current results on the page. That would be very good. Virtroxiam (talk) 00:30, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Projected Results
Results are already coming in, projection can be made since we're 84.7% in terms of voter count. I can update the table with pending projections.Saxophonemn (talk) 09:45, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Can someone explain this template? I only was able to see how there is an issue with how it does time zones, which @Syaz351 caught. Does wikipedia rather prefer final results and not partial results? Saxophonemn (talk) 10:45, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe if enough reputable outlets call it, then it is generally safe for results to be posted to articles. It may be different with smaller countries or ones with an electoral process that a majority of editors are not familiar with, but at least with most western elections, most results are posted if the major networks call it as, using the USA for example, it takes close to a month and a half for it to be formally tabulated in congress. In this instance, it appears the majority of Israeli press outlets are calling it for Netanyu's bloc. PaulRKil (talk) 18:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

The Arab parties chadash taal had seats in the government and so did Bayit yehudi, can someone fix it 68.194.16.238 (talk) 01:16, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Threshold
Meretz received 3.31% and 0 seats? Doesn't every party that receives more than 3.25% receive 4 seats? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.249.42.219 (talk) 22:15, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Meretz currently stands at 3.14%. That MAY change as "double envelope" ballots are counted over the next few days. But is unlikely. Regardless, if anything does change, this page will be updated accordingly. BasilLeaf (talk) 14:31, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Coalition Partners
Should we list who the expected coalition partners will be? After all, this is how the prime minister is appointed. Yes, I know, it isn't official until the new prime minister is asked by the president to form a new government, but we do include "predictions and polls" in our articles, don't we?

74.64.128.191 (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * We can ultimately have a section similar to this one, explaining the ongoing issues post-election, from foreign reactions to statements of Gantz/Saar/Eisenkot, to the faith of Meretz, to the process of coalition building and the give-and-take that goes on in the negotiations, and so on and so forth: 2020_Israeli_legislative_election BasilLeaf (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Left-wing framing
"289,000 anti-Netanyahu votes went wasted"

This and the other parts arround this line are written from a left-wing perspective. What about the votes for "Jewish Home"? 93.206.52.46 (talk) 22:24, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * That's what given source says. We also mention that The Jewish Home didn't pass the threeshold. It's true, however, that Meretz and Balad were more "wasted votes" than The Jewish Home, and Netanyahu won anyway, so it didn't affect The Jewish Home as much as the other two parties. Davide King (talk) 22:49, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Palestinians in occupied territories
, your repeatedly sentence about Palestinians in the occupied territories not being able to vote in this elections is misleading readers into thinking that those Palestinians are somehow entitled to it. Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are citizens of Palestine, not Israel, and they vote in Palestinian elections. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 23:45, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree that this is both misleading and irrelevant. I have removed it. Cheers, Number   5  7  23:51, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Number 57@Triggerhippie4, so are we just going to ignore what a reliable source found important enough to cite when analyzing the election? "Unlike Palestinian citizens living in Israel, Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza do not have voting rights in Israel." This is what NPR, the reliable source cited, says, as a fact. How is this both misleading and irrelevant? Davide King (talk) 00:08, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * In one of their summary to justify this, Triggerhippie4 wrote: "Israel doesn't consider them part of Israel [sic], and they vote in Palestinian elections." I'd say this is truly irrelevant, that they don't consider them part of Israel [sic] when we have the "Israeli-occupied territories" article. Davide King (talk) 00:10, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The article says "[Netanyahu] called to return 'national pride' in a Jewish state and impose tougher law enforcement against Palestinians and Palestinian citizens of Israel." To reiterate, Israeli-occupied territories and Israeli–Palestinian conflict are a thing and remain relevant to politcs and elections, as demonstrated by the aforemention RS article about the Israeli election, not Israel as a country or a generic article, in which case I could agree it'd be undue since in such a case the source didn't find it relevant to the election but this isn't the case, is it? It's cited in an article about the election, which saw a far-right and anti-Arab surge.1
 * Foreign Policy
 * Davide King (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Not everything written about the election in sources has to be added to the article. What is being added is highly misleading and/or confusing. Who are "Palestinians living in Israel"? Israelis Arabs or Palestinian citizens resident in Israel? The latter cannot vote as they are not Israeli citizens. And why would it even need to be stated that Arab Israeli citizens can vote? Number   5  7  00:43, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The point you seems to be trying to make is that Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank can vote, but Palestians cannot. What happens in Israel proper for Israeli citizens (of any ethnicity) isn't really notable as pretty much every county allows its citizens to vote. I wouldn't object too much to something along the lines of my first sentence being added, but what was being added before was downright misleading. Number   5  7  00:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, not everything written about the election has to be added but don't see you the relevance? As for who they are referring to, I wrote above what the source wrote, and it's not the point I'm making, it's what a reliable source states as fact! "I wouldn't object too much to something along the lines of my first sentence being added", what was your version of it? "but what was being added before was downright misleading", then copy edit it, improve it, reword it, don't just remove sourced content, see WP:PRESERVE. Davide King (talk) 01:50, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Number 57, "I wouldn't object too much to something along the lines of my first sentence being added", were you refering to "Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank can vote, but Palestians cannot"? If so, I'd be fine with that, which is not a "point [I seem] to trying to make" but what the source states as fact; I was just paraphrasing what the source was saying (see quote above), but if that'd fix the issues, feel free to re-add with that wording or something like that. My main issue is the total removal of sourced content on dubious grounds without even trying, not even once, to fix the raised issues and reword it or copyedit it. Davide King (talk) 13:49, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Palestinians in the occupied territories have their governments and are not supposed to vote in Israeli elections because it's not their country. We don't just put here what every lazy journalist wrote. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 00:59, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow just wow! Too bad NPR is listed as a "generally reliable source" at WP:RSP and we don't dismiss sources just because of our own original research or because we don't like what they say. If that's your view of WP:RELIABLESOURCES, I don't know what to tell you. Davide King (talk) 01:53, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that NPR isn't reliable. But not everything written in reliable sources is worth adding. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 01:58, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, but none of your cited reasons look to be on policy grounds other than you personally thinking it's irrelevant, even though it's cited by a reliable source in an article about the election, which is the topic of this article. Davide King (talk) 02:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If needs be the NPR source can be directly quoted with attribution, I can't see any real reason not to include what the source says. The sentence I think is actually intended as a follow on to the voter quote immediately preceding it "...The problem will be with the Palestinian citizens of Israel, the Palestinians in the West Bank. All of them are in a near danger for the near future." The issue being highlighted is discussed in other sources, its not just NPR making stuff up. See here for example.Selfstudier (talk) 18:32, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, @Selfstudier. That's also why I reverted it, @EdJohnston, I genuinely thought that was vandalism and I didn't think about edit warring until realizing it, so my bad for that but I've got the warning and I'll be more careful to avoid that. I have since stopped reverting and discussed it here. I have also avoided re-added it even with the wording suggested by @Number 57, since apparently that was their main issue. If relevancy remain the only issue, as argued by @Triggerhippie4, I'm even more baffled now that Selfstudier correctly pointed this out and how it wasn't a point I was making but what reliable sources have written and how it's relevant enough to be cited. Davide King (talk) 20:31, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Defeated incumbents
Please cite sources for adding a list about defeated incumbents. Also people like Ayelet Shaked and Omer Bar-Lev weren't MKs before the elections so they should be kept out. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 21:37, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I generally think lists about Israeli politicians should include ministers like Shaked and Bar-Lev, they're relevant as they resigned due to the Norwegian Law. We used that precedent for the list of retiring MKs. We've done lists of defeated MKs before, which i don't particularly mind. I think the list should be readded with citations. Totalstgamer (talk) 21:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Well regardless, there needs to be sources and not just conjecture. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That's what the "This section does not cite any sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources." was for. See also WP:PRESERVE. Davide King (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "As long as any of the facts or ideas added to an article would belong in the "finished" article, they should be retained if they meet the three core content policies: Neutral point of view (which does not mean no point of view), Verifiability, and No original research." The list fails two of them. It's not just one or two things, your whole section is uncited and based on conjecture.
 * And per WP:V "Any material that needs an inline citation but does not have one may be removed." If you add back unsourced material again it will be removed immediately. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:35, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I support re-adding the list. I'll gladly search for sourcing tomorrow if needed. Information may be removed, but that doesn't mean it should be or that such a removal is somehow mandatory. After all, its not like this information is impossible to source, its just that it hasn't been sourced yet... Totalstgamer (talk) 22:37, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If editors don't even cite a single source for a whole section, then I believe that information should be removed. There's nothing prohibiting removal of such a thing. The list had been sitting there for hours but no one bothered to source it. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:39, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 'Hours' is an incredibly short period of time, as evidenced by the quantity of unsourced paragraphs in older election articles. I'll find sources for it tomorrow, and if i won't, someone else will, that's what tags are for. Totalstgamer (talk) 22:42, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It's enough time to source at least something, MKs who lost or parties who aren't entering as whole. If other articles make mistakes they need to be corrected too, it's not a justification. I didn't say editors needed to source the whole section regarding incumbents. And besides this is a high-visibility article, a standard needs to be maintained even if it can't be perfect. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:43, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Totalstgamer Usually RSes have lists of elected MKs (The Times of Israel is pretty consistent about it), but the official election results aren't even published officially yet. The section was sort of original research, based on the number of seats won by each party and the party lists (as I see it). The Knesset is sworn in on the 15th, so we may have to wait until then. As it is, we should get some clarity fairly soon. David O. Johnson (talk) 00:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree, the section didn't have any citations and was original research. The results aren't official yet (they're certified on the ninth), so i don't mind waiting until then, or until the fifteenth. Regardless i think removing the section was pointless if we know its most likely going to be accurate and incredibly easy to cite within a week's time. Totalstgamer (talk) 12:32, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It will be accurate is not a reason that should be used on Wikipedia (and I've gotten reverted for using similar reasoning in past). The results are still preliminary. I suggest waiting for a few days. One can easily figure out all sitting MKs of a party below threshold were eliminated. Not specific members of party that crossed the threshold. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 16:51, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If you look at the article relating to Party lists for the 2022 Israeli legislative election it tells you the names of everyone standing. At the moment Likud has won 32 seats, mean any incumbents after 32 will have lost their seats or we know Meretz has not crossed the necessary threshold meaning all of their incumbents have lost etc. RioCap1 (talk) 16:58, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It will be accurate is more than enough reason. The results are to be certified tomorrow, the Knesset's being sworn in next week, its probably already possible to source the table as is, there's no point in waiting, and if you truly believe we should, a hatnote summarizing that the new Knesset has yet to be sworn in would do the trick. I don't know if you've been reverted, itd make sense given wikipedia's policy on predictions, but its not relevant to the present discussion. By the time you'll reply to me, the results will already be official, with the sources already existing. Regardless, i'm not gonna touch the table at this pace, it's not that important. Totalstgamer (talk) 17:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:CRYSTALBALL regarding what's accurate. Also people aren't supposed to take anyone's word for what's accurate or not. I hope the list gets sourced when the results are out. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 17:37, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I already did look at the list. It is only briefly mentioned here. If your idea is for readers to minutely check the article and go "figure out" who's eliminated or not by going to other articles I suggest you do better. Please source this section or I'll have to eliminate it. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 04:35, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

It's been 11 days. Please source the section quickly by tomorrow or I'll be removing it without further considering. We don't accept the substitution for sources is for the reader to figure things out themselves if that's the idea. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 04:05, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know who 'we' is, but the council of wikipedians shall receive well-needed citations at once. Totalstgamer (talk) 11:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "We" here is Wikipedia. Because per the rules citations are required. You've had enough time by now. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 17:16, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Roman Reigns Fanboy Another editor has added sources. David O. Johnson (talk) 17:41, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes I saw that after making the comment. Didn't immediately check it. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 17:42, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Surplus-vote agreements
Currently the last sentence of Section 4.1 Surplus-vote agreements is "The Israeli Labor Party and Meretz attempted to reach such an agreement but failed to finalize one after Labor leader Merav Michaeli vetoed the alliance." but https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/meretz-labor-parties-sign-surplus-vote-agreement/ published 3 October reports an agreement having been signed (following the cited 31 August tentative agreement) and a 21 October Central Elections Committee press release https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/news/dover41/en/press-releases_eng_pressrelease041.pdf includes "2. HaAvoda (Labor) WITH Meretz". Mcljlm (talk) 14:50, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've corrected it. David O. Johnson (talk) 19:55, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Rise of Ben-Gvir
The thing that has been noted most by secondary sources about this election asides from the Netanyahu victory is the rise of Itamar Ben-Gvir. I think it deserves a mention in the lead. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Unclear language
At the end of the aftermath section the article reads:

"from a majority of 64 MKs"

Does that mean that 64 members of the Knesset support Netanyahu or that a majority within these 64 members support him? 62.226.64.3 (talk) 19:11, 12 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I reworded it to read "from 64 MKs, which constituted a majority." Hopefully it's clearer. David O. Johnson (talk) 19:48, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. 93.206.53.87 (talk) 02:58, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Bloated Aftermath Section
The Aftermath section is massive and should probably be forked into Thirty-seventh government of Israel, like it was in 2021. Its not like the government formation process fits on a page about the election. Totalstgamer (talk) 14:46, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree. This section should only contain a summary of events that led to the formation of the government. Vacant0 (talk) 14:49, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I didn't even know they opened a thirty-seventh government page. I'll very quickly copy everything to that page, add an also see to the aftermath section, then we'll start cutting stuff out of the election page. Totalstgamer (talk) 14:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm going to abridge the aftermath section in about an hour or two. Totalstgamer (talk) 17:50, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Infobox votes
What is this format? Why do Israeli elections (and Palestinian) in particular have this shit format where the votes aren't displayed? It shows percentage of votes, and percentage turnout, but not the actual amount of votes.

Furthermore, it's in a completely different format from any other Wikipedia article for election results that I've seen. Why is it a table rather than the usual squares with the portraits of the party leaders? Is this just some special exception where articles for Palestinian and Israeli election results just aren't allowed to have the number of votes displayed? The turnout percentage is displayed, and so are the percentage of votes for each party, so the reasoning could not possibly be that there's a lack of accurate information ―the percentages wouldn't be displayed if that were the case.

It boggles my mind that there's this standardisation and then suddenly, for seemingly no reason, there's something that's completely different. Not to mention the fact that the Elections in Israel article already has the number of total votes, invalid votes, valid votes, and registered voters for all elections since 1949. What possible reason could there be for using this completely non-standard format of infobox, and thereby not displaying the votes?

I hope you see past my abrasiveness and read my actual points, that would be appreciated. Sblana (talk) 06:08, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The use of this format is not uncommon at all for legislative elections with large numbers of parties. Some examples:
 * 2021 Russian legislative election
 * 2021 Dutch general election
 * 2022 Colombian parliamentary election
 * 2022 Brazilian general election
 * 2022 Japanese House of Councillors election
 * 2022 French legislative election
 * 2022 Italian general election
 * 2022 Danish general election
 * If I recall correctly, the consensus for Israeli legislative elections has been to use this format because the other format only allows for a maximum of nine parties, and more than nine parties have almost always qualified for the Knesset. If there is some way to modify this format to include the number of votes received by each party, I wouldn't be opposed to that, but I also wouldn't say that this format is non-standard or unjustified. Jacoby531 (talk) 06:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2024
On the picture of Isaac Herzog voting, change the caption to either "Israel's President" or "Israeli President". The current version on the article, "Israeli's President", is grammatically incorrect Sutapurachina (talk) 02:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. Thank you for flagging it up. Cheers, Number   5  7  02:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Inconsistent depiction of results
The article on Otzma Yehudit indicates it go 6 seats whereas this article indicates it only got 1 seat.

It is indicated in the results section that a coalition of Religious Zionism and Otzma Yehudit collectively achieved 14 seats, but this is not clear enough. Can anyone clarify? --Jabbi (talk) 14:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you confusing the Factions before the election table with the result? That's the only place I can see this article saying Otzma have one seat. Number   5  7  15:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * So I am. Rash reading on my behalf, simply didn't occur to me that results from previous elections would be presented that way. Thanks --Jabbi (talk) 15:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually. The summary introductory panel doesn't list Otzma Yehudit in the results, but only Religious Zionism. Neither does the article explain if and then how the 14 seats collectively won were split. --Jabbi (talk) 15:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've amended the infobox to add Otzma alongside the RZP. Re the seat split, this can be calculated from the party list, which shows the affiliation of the candidates:
 * Bezalel Smotrich – National Union–Tkuma (legal name of the RZP)
 * Itamar Ben-Gvir – Jewish National Front (legal name of Otzma)
 * Ofir Sofer – National Union–Tkuma
 * Orit Strook – Atid Ehad
 * Yitzhak Wasserlauf – Eretz Yisrael Shelanu (representing Otzma)
 * Simcha Rothman – National Union–Tkuma
 * Almog Cohen – Jewish National Front
 * Michal Waldiger – National Union–Tkuma
 * Amihai Eliyahu – Jewish National Front
 * Zvika Fogel – Jewish National Front
 * Avi Maoz – LaZuz (legal name of Noam)
 * Ohad Tal – National Union–Tkuma
 * Limor Son Har-Melech – Jewish National Front
 * Moshe Solomon – National Union–Tkuma
 * Number  5  7  16:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)