Talk:2022 Missouri train derailment

Time
Since Central Daylight Time is in effect in Missouri, the difference between local time and UTC should be 5 hours, not 6. I would change it, but I don't know whether the local time is correct and UTC wrong, or vice versa. 23.28.74.44 (talk) 03:37, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

This has been fixed by another editor (not me). RickyCourtney (talk) 21:39, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Article title
Wouldn't "2022 Mendon, Missouri train derailment" be a much better title? Mjroots (talk) 06:31, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, if there was another train derailment in Missouri, in 2022, that was notable enough for its own Wikipedia article. Unless there’s further need for disambiguation, this title follows established standards. Plus according to the sources the incident didn’t actually happen in the town of Mendon. RickyCourtney (talk) 06:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Odd coincidences
Just noting for now the odd spate of fatal Amtrak collisions with vehicles at level crossings: 4 occurred within 24 hours including the Southwest Chief 4 described in this article:
 * San Joaquins 713, approx. 1 PM PDT on June 26 at a private crossing near Brentwood, California
 * Crescent 20, approx. 6:20 PM EDT on June 26 near Birmingham, Alabama
 * Wolverine 354, early on June 27 near Detroit, Michigan

Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 19:10, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Train consist
The train consist is quite detailed and difficult to source. The best I have found so far is a forum post that reposted a trainspotting website: https://www.amtraktrains.com/threads/southwest-chief-derailment.82424/page-4#post-964194 ... if there is a better source, it should be added to the article. Photographs now confirm that AMTK 133 and a Viewliner baggage car were involved; other aerial images could be used to piece together specific Superliner cars. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

The consist included the following locomotives and railcars (in no specific order; feel free to edit if needed):
 * 133, GE P42DC
 * 166, GE P42DC
 * 61053, CAF Viewliner-II Baggage
 * 31029, Pullman-Standard Superliner-I Coach/Baggage
 * 32104, Bombardier Superliner-II Sleeper
 * 33046, Bombardier Superliner-II Lounge
 * 34026, Pullman-Standard Superliner-I Coach
 * 34102, Bombardier Superliner-II Coach
 * 38060, Bombardier Superliner-II Diner
 * 39045, Bombardier Superliner-II Transition/Dorm

Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 13:59, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

“Response” section
Do we need the ”Response” section? Currently it’s just a short list of politicians offering their “thoughts and prayers.“ That happens after every mass casualty event and doesn’t seem to add any additional context or information for the reader. RickyCourtney (talk) 15:46, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I think that the two first things about the congress person and governor could be eliminated as you said. I think that the involvement of the boy scouts were some of the most interesting tidbits of information, so that could probably be moved up to a section about the boy scouts. Sea Cow (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Lawsuits
If someone has a PACER account, they should be able to track these lawsuits:
 * E.D. Mo., case 4:22-cv-00694, National Railroad Passenger Corporation Amtrak et al v. MS Contracting LLC
 * Docket at Justia
 * E.D. Mo., case 2:22-cv-00037, National Railroad Passenger Corporation Amtrak et al v. MS Contracting LLC
 * E.D. Mo., case 4:22-cv-00701, Janet Williams and David Williams v. National Railroad Passenger Corporation a/k/a/ Amtrak et al
 * Initial complaint
 * Docket at Justia
 * E.D. Mo., case 2:22-cv-00038, Gallaway et al v. National Railroad Passenger Corporation a/k/a/ Amtrak
 * Docket at Justia
 * Circuit Court (Chariton County) filing

Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 16:33, 7 July 2022 (UTC)