Talk:2022 Tour de France Femmes

Map
Well, I asked Andrei Loas who does the excellent TDF maps, but he hasn't got back to me. So I've requested one. If anyone is a dab hand at map making, let Graphics Lab/Map workshop know! Turini2 (talk) 17:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Map has been done, and now added to article. Kiwipete (talk) 18:56, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Wonderful! Turini2 (talk) 20:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Route and stages
The section comments on reaction to the length, and the need to waive restrictions, without explicitly saying what the length was and what figures exceeded the restrictions. The info may be available in infobox etc, but would be useful in this section. Pam D  08:06, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @PamD - is this what you mean: "Women's WorldTour races have a maximum stage length of 160 kilometres (99 mi) and a maximum race length of six days"? Kiwipete (talk) 09:16, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That and "The overall length of the event was also met with agreement, with some teams noting that they do not "yet have the staff or numbers ... for a three-week event."" - so how long, in distance and days, is this race? Pam  D  09:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @PamD - I see what you mean. The distance and days are indeed in the infobox, but also the "Stage characteristics" table in this section has them. This article closely follows the equivalent article for the men's tour. Kiwipete (talk) 09:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It just seems to me that that section would make much more sense to the uninformed reader if it included the figures being discussed. I'm not a cycling expert, just dropped by to look at the article after it was mentioned at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red. Pam  D  09:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Have a look at the change I've just made. Let me know if this is what you're looking for :) Kiwipete (talk) 09:50, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, looks good: I've made one more addition, to provide context for the comment about restriction on stage length (or it could go into that later sentence if you think it makes its current place too cluttered). Pam  D  13:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Finishing up this article
I'll have a go at finishing the race summary later, I think we need a few photos (I think there's one of van Vlueten in the yellow jersey), and I hope there's some references about the event being successful etc. Turini2 (talk) 15:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Think I'm done, feedback welcome! Turini2 (talk) 21:30, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Turini2, as I mentioned on the WP Cycling page a lot of the holdup was just getting the account of the race and citing all tables in order and not on the newsworthiness of the article. Let's push to get these done during the race next year for the sake of alacrity. Omnifalcon (talk) 15:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * high five Turini2 (talk) 15:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Just dealt with the last red linked rider too - Mischa Bredewold! Turini2 (talk) 20:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Van Vleuten's surname
@PeeJay - first you were bold, then @Turini2 reverted you, so now you should follow WP:BRD and open a discussion here about whether or not to capitalise "van". Kiwipete (talk) 23:03, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The discussion took place on my talk page, thanks to @Turini2 for opening it immediately after reverting me. I have explained the grammar rule that should be followed, but just in case you don't want to click through to my talk page, I suggest you take a look at tussenvoegsel. The relevant passage reads "the tussenvoegsel in a surname is written with a capital letter only when it starts a sentence or is not preceded by a first name or initial". Hope that helps. – PeeJay 23:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Setting the record straight
2022 was NOT the first Women’s Tour de France, 1984 was and it continued through 1989. Please make this factual correction. Thank you! 47.149.117.55 (talk) 23:52, 17 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @47.149.117.55 Hello, the organisers ASO have referred to this event as the "first Tour de France Femmes" - so that's why the article says that. The article also links to Grande Boucle Féminine Internationale - which has information on the variety of similar events (some with Tour de France Feminin names) that were run in the 1980s. Turini2 (talk) 07:32, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * In reply to this - I've added a reference of ASO calling the event "The 1st edition of the Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift" Turini2 (talk) 20:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

With thanks to the WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors
@Reidgreg of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors did excellent work copy editing this article, relevant notes from said work can be found here: User talk:Turini2

Thanks again, Reidgreg! Turini2 (talk) 16:56, 30 November 2023 (UTC)