Talk:2023 in spaceflight

Change Artemis 2 flight to June
Hello everyone, I recommend a change to Artemis 2 flight to June. Here is the link https://web.archive.org/web/20210614003506/https://sma.nasa.gov/docs/default-source/sma-disciplines-and-programs/smsr/smsr-intergrated-master-schedule_24feb2020aab4a269d2a865b9a1a0ff0f003ca228.pdf?sfvrsn=8290faf8_26

Eth132489 (talk) 07:32, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Return of OSIRIS-REx
Another highlight for the overview: the return of OSIRIS-REx on 24 September 2023

--Jbout (talk) 20:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Maiden flights
I had a look at 2022 (start of the year version): We listed 37 rockets as "expected maiden flights". Only 5 of them actually flew (SLS, SSLV, Vega-C, Zhuque-2, ZK-1A), only one of them was the first rocket of the organization. With such a poor track record I suggest to shorten the list: Include all rockets mentioned in the overview or regularly discussed in secondary sources (these groups should be identical, ideally), otherwise only include rockets if we have a secondary source discussing a launch window (at least a month) not more than three months in the future. This suggestion should not be used as reason to expand the overview. --mfb (talk) 15:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I implemented that, looks much better now. --mfb (talk) 17:34, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Usual Split As in 2022
The same thing we did in 2022, that is As 2022 is on its completion, i want to separated list of launches to the 2 new pages to be created.@Yiosie2356. Say yes, then within 1hour to 1day this work is completed by me or you. Chinakpradhan (talk) 05:49, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Chinakpradhan Yes, I also think it is time to split the list. I don't have time to do so right now, but I'll check back in about six hours or so to do the split or clean up if you do it first. Yiosie&#8201;2356 00:01, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am starting the list split now. Yiosie&#8201;2356 08:13, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

thanks for the split Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:13, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Rocket Lab
There is an open request for comment at Talk:Rocket Lab regarding how to describe the nationality of the company. Input from knowledgeable space flight editors would be appreciated. Grey Wanderer (talk)

Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy are different rockets
Why is the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches listed together as Falcon 9 in the rocket launch summary? user:mnw2000 22:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC) user:mnw2000 22:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I can think of two reasons why Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy are considered the same type.
 * 1) The second stage and fairing used on a Falcon 9 are the same as used on the Falcon Heavy. in the case of the fairings, some have flown on Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy missions. There have been two Falcon Heavy launches that used three side boosters which have previously flown as Falcon 9 (FH demo - both side boosters were converted from F9 boosters, One of the side boosters for Viasat-3 Americas started out as a FH side booster, was converted to a Falcon 9 booster and later converted back to a FH side booster.
 * 2) Consistency = The only active Delta IV type is the Delta Heavy. Previous it included several single stick variants that differed on the number of solid rocket boosters and fairings. AmigaClone (talk) 04:21, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Euclid
The launch of Euclid on July 1 seems to warrant a mention in this article, no? 2.99.87.127 (talk) 22:21, 27 July 2023 (UTC) BE sock. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It is listed at List of spaceflight launches in July–December 2023. When the Euclid's mission results in new discoveries, those will be listed here. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Isn't the launch alone quite momentous considering, IIRC, it's the first mission of its kind to observe what it is being sent to observe? 2.99.64.78 (talk) 20:13, 28 July 2023 (UTC) BE sock. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It will be when it succeeds. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay. So why are launches like JUICE and others included on this page, at present, when they have not succeeded in their goals and won't for many years to come. 2.99.64.78 (talk) 22:22, 1 August 2023 (UTC) BE sock. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Those are listed in a "planetary exploration" page. Euclid is not designed for planetary exploration, but past years like 2021_in_spaceflight have had "space telescopes" sections if you want to write one. Astrofreak92 (talk) 00:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Human Spaceflight milestone
Would it be noteworthy enough to mention that Sergey Prokopyev, Dmitry Petelin, and Francisco Rubio's have spent over one year in orbit, a feat that has not been achieved since Sergey Avdeev's flight between 13 August 1998 and 28 August 1999.

This crew is the first to spend one continuous year on board the ISS and their mission currently is ranked as the third longest crewed mission. It also is the longest mission with multiple crewmembers and with three crewmembers. AmigaClone (talk) 09:28, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Addition of mass to orbit ?
I was wondering if we could add a (short) section on mass to orbit by rocketclass and/or country? This is considered a key metric for human space exploration. Additionally we could track the change (hopefully increase of the mass) over the years. Dg21dg21 (talk) 16:16, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Strong agree that this would be a useful addition Jess_Riedel (talk) 21:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I would agree with that idea except for one minor issue. There are many launches where little information is made public about the payload sent into orbit - and that includes their mass.
 * While in some cases it might be possible to estimate the maximum mass of the payload due to what is know about the capabilities of the launch vehicle although that also assumes that the launch provider has not made any upgrades to the launch vehicle or changed the procedures that might have allowed that particular vehicle to increase it's maximum payload to a targeted orbit.
 * A third issue that might apply in mass produced satellites is that the manufacturer might have optimized the design and reduced the weight of their satellites - and not made those changes public. AmigaClone (talk) 22:29, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Rocket Innovation
Would it be appropriate to either expand the scope of the section titled Rocket Innovation to include in addition to the first (or first successful) launch of a rocket to also include launch vehicle records and retirements or include a new section containing that information?

Strictly speaking, while 2023 has seen the maiden launch of several the new rockets, the only true "innovations" has been the debut of methane as fuel in at least the first stage of orbital launch vehicles and some engine designs.

Perhaps renaming that section as Rocket debut, retirement, and other news would be more appropriate. AmigaClone (talk) 08:49, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think we need to discuss retirements in detail. Maybe one sentence listing the rockets? If major families retire (like the upcoming Delta retirement) then I can see a discussion. I feel like the rocket innovation section is still too long, and focuses too much on dates. --mfb (talk) 09:12, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Crewed flights needs updated should say 5
Crude flights needs updated should be 5 2600:1016:B049:36C:3CE2:CA2:43:851C (talk) 05:44, 21 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Updated to reflect the following crewed flights: SpaceX Crew-6, Axiom-2, Shenzhou 16, SpaceX Crew-7, Soyuz MS-24. A further update will be needed when Shenzhou 17 launches. AmigaClone (talk) 04:45, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Changing
I am renaming SLV to ILV meaning Indian launch vehicle slv rocket disambiguation notic even says this article is about an Indian launch vehicle. 122.187.144.98 (talk) 16:33, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * They started ditching S in LVM3 122.187.144.98 (talk) 16:37, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * please @Torlek take a moment and read the history of isro launchers. There was an slv-3 rocket for a long time then aslv pslv gslv, lvm3 came but Every rocket is slv "ilv" for Indian (or ISRO if private launchers are in this year) launch vehicles Indian Rockets are independent and inspired of each other they don't belong to one family. So you mean naro 1 and 2 (kslv) are indian. I organised a discussion at the talk page by name changing, noresponse RIP B1058 (talk) 10:16, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Lunar exploration category
I believe that a Lunar exploration category should be added in order to stay consistent with previous articles and for a better reading experience. 2006 Opel Meriva (talk) 14:01, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

One Falcon 9 launch missing?
Stats show 90 Falcon 9 launches this year, when there should be 91 (counted them manually, checked other sites, SpaceX announced 96 successful launches in 2023: 91 F9, 5 FH). Assuming everything else is correct Vandenberg total should be 30, US total 116 and grand total 223. Berkut88 (talk) 13:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)