Talk:2024 Iran–Israel conflict/Archive 1

"conflict" hasn't broken out
As of yet, I wouldn't consider it a conflict, since the Al-Asad Airbase retaliation for the Assassination of Qasem Soleimani isn't considered a "conflict" between the United States and Iran, and neither did the 1991 Iraqi rocket attacks on Israel consider as a "conflict" between Iraq and Israel. But this is still recent, nobody knows about the possible escalations that could follow suit. Christophervincent01 (talk) 04:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Agreed, this article is unnecessary unless there’s an actual confrontation between Israeli and Iranian forces rather than a back and forth, much like (as mentioned) the Soleimani case. 2605:B100:D1D:5E7A:1904:DCC3:4974:B1F9 (talk) 08:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, the period of tensions during that time was called the Persian Gulf crisis anyway, even if there's no article. And at this point it's pretty much confirmed Israel will respond based on statements by western officials, and that Iran will respond again. Personisinsterest (talk) 10:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It still wasn't called a "conflict" and it's highly notable that there isn't an article on the "Persian Gulf crisis," with it rather redirecting towards the Iran–United States relations. Christophervincent01 (talk) 19:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Add US Navy to list of units involved
The US Navy was involved in shooting down missiles launched from Iran to Israel the units from the United States Navy, which were involved were two Arleigh Burke class destroyers with fighter jets from the USS Eisenhower Nimitz aircraft carrier 96.60.168.239 (talk) 00:43, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * That detail, if sourced, belongs more in the specific article on the massive standoff attack that occurred on 13-14 April, currently named: 2024 Iranian strikes in Israel. Cheers.  N2e (talk) 12:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Another support from Africa
I saw this support for Israel while researching. Wouldn't it be appropriate to add it? See link Caleb Ndu (talk) 15:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Another source here Interested editors should access it. Caleb Ndu (talk) 16:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 April 2024
Change On 1 April, Israel bombed the Iranian consulate in Damascus, killing multiple senior Iranian officials.to On 1 April, Israel bombed the Iranian consulate in Damascus, which killed multiple senior Iranian officials. Caleb Ndu (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Why is this changed needed? The current text reads better in my opinion. Jamedeus (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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False and misleading claims
It says that "The drones and missiles hit various cities in Israel". In reality none of the drones even entered Israeli territory, and none of the missiles hit Israeli cities. Also when it says 33 civilians injured, maybe add that only one of them was from the missiles themselves. Otherwise it's a bit misleading. 176.230.36.187 (talk) 08:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Very few words on the relationship between the war in Gaza to this skirmish
The article seems to only skim over relevant details of the war in Gaza, and the wider reaction in Western Asia to it. This article could be improved by elaborating on Iran's reaction to Israeli action taken against Palestinians, especially the tensions caused by Israeli intentions to attack Rafah. 109.175.167.0 (talk) 11:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 April 2024
Add Russia as a group supporting Iran. Sources: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjax9lhla

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/15/iran-israel-russia-drones-missiles/ MoCoEd23 (talk) 14:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: The countries and groups in the belligerents section are directly involved in the conflict and have exchanged fire with the other side. Russia has only made public statements. This is still relevant and could probably be added to a reactions section as the article expands, but there isn't anywhere to put it right now. Jamedeus (talk) 17:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 April 2024
Remove Saudi Arabia, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, King Salman, Mohammed bin Salman, Khalid bin Salman Al Saud, and reference 10. 169.234.207.194 (talk) 17:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. This is likely a controversial change and no explanation is given for why it is necessary. Jamedeus (talk) 19:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 April 2024 (2)
The Times of Israel cannot possible considered a credible or unbiased source, Wikipedia should put off including Saudi Arabia and the UAE as belligerents due to the news source available for that claim being The Times of Israel, at least until more regarding this is uncovered. JosefAJ (talk) 21:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This has been reported by multiple sources. I just added a second citation from a more neutral outlet so that we aren't relying exclusively on Times of Israel. Jamedeus (talk) 21:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

israeli retaliation
It's over from their end. not ongoing. we can remove the ongoing part.now see if Iran retaliated. 37.252.95.10 (talk) 04:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 19 April 2024
change name to 2024 Iran Israel war 98.110.81.233 (talk) 19:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC) 2024 Iran-Israel conflict → 2024 Iran-Israel war — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.81.233 (talk) 20:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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 * Note there is an ongoing discussion about renaming the page above. Jamedeus (talk) 20:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Over?
Is this over? Most sources say the direct tit-for-tat is over now, and there hasn’t been any new strikes, even proxy strikes, so I think it’s time to declare it as over. Personisinsterest (talk) 07:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)