Talk:2026 FIFA World Cup/Archive 2

New Venues Map
Building upon the discussion over at Talk:2022 FIFA World Cup, I have drafted this OSM Location map intended to be placed at the top of the section to the right of the prose, replacing the current Location map+ being used in the venues table. This would allow the venues table to be a simple 4×4 table that does not break the width of the page on either mobile Wikipedia or on desktop Wikipedia with the new theme.

In addition, I also designed the map to be wide enough to accommodate three columns for the legend, and positioned strategically to ensure the measurement key at the bottom right is not obscured by the Caribbean islands. The venues are also colour-coded according to the host countries. Thoughts?


 * Looks good! Inspired by PGA Tour map :) Perhaps it is worth considering ordering alphabetically by city name and including city name in the key like on page 116 of the bid book? I think for the average person they are more likely to relate to a city than stadium name. But obviously this makes key more cumbersome so understand if you want to keep like the current one Jopal22 (talk) 17:12, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I like it. Seems to be way more efficient than the current style. Like the color coding. I agree with Jopal22 that alphabetical might be a little nicer. Chris 1834  Talk 17:15, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * We could do an alphabetical order, sure! For the record, I ordered it the way I did simply so that it would align with the order of the venues table. Also, the names of the host cities per the bid book ("New York/New Jersey", "San Francisco Bay Area", ect.) are included in the map itself when you click through. — AFC Vixen 🦊 (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is excellent work! I like the compactness and the color-coded legend. I would re-order the stadia, though. Since FIFA has organized the stadia into three geographical regions and the legend has room for three columns, I would order them from north-to-south by region, i.e. BC Place, Lumen Field, Levi's Stadium, SoFi Stadium, and Estadio Akron in the first column, then the central region in the second column, then the eastern region in the third column. Regardless of the final layout, this is great work! Thank you! — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 18:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This looks great! Much cleaner than what we have now. A couple of things I'm thinking about, though I don't have a strong opinion on either:
 * I like the color coding, though I wonder if might be more useful to divide the cities/venues by zones they've created to reduce travel (East, West and Central).
 * FIFA avoids using sponsored names for stadiums during the World Cup. I don't know if that should affect how we label things. I can't imagine too many people referring to the stadium in Foxboro as "Boston Stadium" when it's been known as "Gillette Field" since it opened 20 years ago.
 * Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 18:29, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We'll have to see how FIFA refers to the stadia, then it's not a big deal to use piped wikilinks. — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 18:31, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your first point sounds like an interesting idea! However, I would definitely oppose your second point if FIFA actually do end up calling the venues something incredibly contrived as "FIFA World Cup Stadium Boston" a la the 2006 FIFA World Cup. — AFC Vixen 🦊 (talk) 18:42, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It looks good, and we could use that second one to replace the current map within those pictures but I don't think replacing the whole template is a good idea- I'm strongly opposed to that.--Hmdwgf (talk) 01:08, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd rather keep the current map if full labels for the cities can't be included. Having to flip between the map's numbers and the caption might be a bit annoying for those unfamiliar with the area's geography.  Sounder Bruce  07:48, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Since another editor also expressed a preference for cities over venues in the legend, I've updated the example, using the official host city names instead of the venue names. — AFC Vixen 🦊 (talk) 10:16, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi AFC Vixen, I altered the map so the columns in the key are fixed rather than floating, as on my screen setup 11-Monterrey was being shown as the top of column 3. Hope thats ok Jopal22 (talk) 11:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I initially had concerns about the Col-begin series as its documentation states that it is not suitable for mobile, but if it displays fine on mobile as it looks like it does (from my end, anyway), then I have no problem with the replacement. I hope you don't mind that I put back Unbulleted list though, since MOS:NOBREAKS discourages the use of bare  coding. — AFC Vixen 🦊 (talk) 12:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is excellent! Alphabetical order by region works very well. Thank you for the excellent work! — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 19:02, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am liking how this looks! Thank you! Ozziebro (talk) 08:41, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I have to be honest, as an Wikipedia user, not editor, this layout is significantly less user friendly than the old set-up in my opinion.
 * Scrolling is required to check the stadiums against the map.
 * Also, having the numbers so you have to refer to a key just to see the name of the city feels obtuse.
 * It made sense regarding Qatar as all the games happened within a single city, but here. I just see this as a massive step backwards, its slightly harder to use this page now. Graveyjones5 (talk) 04:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You can click into the full map which offers much more than the static preview can. — AFC Vixen 🦊 (talk) 16:57, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Given how this tournament is taking place in three countries and its over such a large area, this new map is probably the best bet. It does break it down by region which is helpful. I do wonder if there is a way to insert it into the middle of the infoxbox with all the venues. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 17:54, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Why are Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana highlighted in yellow on the map of the venues?
Is there a specific reason as to why these three countries are highlighted in yellow? They're not the co-hosts right? Someone please clarify. JoshuaInWiki (talk) 07:00, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The base template is for all CONCACAF member nations, which include them for cultural reasons (as they have close ties with the Caribbean nations).  Sounder Bruce  07:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying this @SounderBruce. JoshuaInWiki (talk) 08:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note also that if the concern were to highlight only the three co-hosts, then all the other Central American and Caribbean nations (e.g., Guatemala, Cuba, etc.) would be wrongly highlighted as well, although I note you don't express the same concern about them. 1995hoo (talk) 13:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Relax bro, I was just asking a question. Didn't know everyone here is so sensitive. JoshuaInWiki (talk) 08:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2023
Make a section for sponsorships by stating that host cities are allowed to sell sponsors to offset the cost. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2023/01/23/Upfront/world-cup-2026.aspx 76.166.180.149 (talk) 16:05, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 02:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Format
Hello editors,

Why is the format 16 groups of 3? I don't think FIFA has confirmed it just yet. They're still considering different options from what I've heard, so could I see a source that confirms this format. If not, could we reimplement the confirmed format when that comes out? Cheers and have a great day. 76.166.183.180 (talk) 01:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * If you read the format section it explains all of that. The format shown was confirmed at one point and since then they have said they are revisiting the format but nothing has confirmed yet. It is all there with sources. If anything does officially change, it would be implemented in the article at that time. Chris 1834  Talk 14:44, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ok no worries thanks 76.166.183.180 (talk) 14:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2023
In Germany, this World cup will be showed on ARD and ZDF. Please add it to "Broadcasting rights" PS: Its officially announced 2A02:8108:46C0:4C74:71D5:4F01:D4CD:4643 (talk) 17:07, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:53, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I have seen sources but now they're gone. But they were saying that ARD, ZDF, RTL will be the 3 Free TV channels that will show the world cup. Also Magenta TV will, but that's not free TV 2A02:8108:46C0:4C74:9C69:ABE3:67C9:E2CC (talk) 09:03, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2023
For Group stage, can we add the time zones for each venue? Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Miami, Toronto all have Eastern Daylight Time (UTC-4). Kansas City, Dallas, and Houston have Central Daylight Time (UTC-5), Mexico City, Monterrey and Guadalajara have Central Standard Time (UTC-6), Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, and Vancouver have Pacific Daylight Time (UTC-7). For the Knockout, you can keep the American cities (Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Miami, Kansas City, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle). Just remember to update this if time zones change within the three years (i.e. Daylight Time is removed). 159.115.9.41 (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Needing to edit if the time zone changes is a good reason for time zones to stay out of this article. Further, they could be easily found on the links to the cities. —C.Fred (talk) 19:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I guess we can wait until around May-June 2026 to put that information in. 76.166.183.180 (talk) 14:55, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. This change has been objected to. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2023
For format, add that we have 104 games. 76.166.183.180 (talk) 19:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 19:33, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I mentioned that on the format, I wanted them to add that we have 104 games now with the new format of 12 groups of 4. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64952428 76.166.183.180 (talk) 19:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It's already mentioned in the Format section. Look very carefully at the paragraph that talks about the approved format as of today. Jalen Folf   (talk)  20:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ok got it thanks 76.166.183.180 (talk) 20:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Official name
“Canada/Mexico/United States” is not part of the official name of the event, so there’s no reason for it and its translations to be taking up so much space in the infobox. Source: page 5 of 98.97.15.49 (talk) 21:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * This is a common practice. In 2002, it was called "Korea/Japan", so we shall keep it until official branding comes out. 76.166.183.180 (talk) 22:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The linked source is a list of FIFA’s official branding. 98.97.15.49 (talk) 22:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok well let the mods decide my guy. Maybe that's just a placeholder until FIFA decides how to deal with three countries. 76.166.183.180 (talk) 22:45, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * "The mods" don't randomly decide things. Administrators must adhere to strict guidelines in their admin duties, and users with semi-protected or extended-protected editing privileges are just as bound by the guidelines, policies, and style manuals as everyone else. Remember, everyone else on here is also just some guy or gal or nb pal :) Actualcpscm (talk) 10:39, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ To clarify, standard practice is to list the name of the event in the language(s) of the host country or countries. In this case, the primary name is in English, and the ones listed below are Spanish and French. It is correct that the host country list does not belong there, so I have removed it. Thanks for the suggestions! Actualcpscm (talk) 10:35, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

FIFA assigned Names for Venues
As per FIFA rules, no stadium can have a corporate name during the tournament. If you go on FIFA's website and go to the page on the venues, it will show the venues without their respective corporate names:

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/articles/world-cup-2026-stadiums-fifa-soccer-football-mexico-usa-canada

My question is; should we change the names of the venues in the venues section to reflect the temporary names FIFA will be using for the tournament? IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 16:55, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see any reason why the article couldn't reflect both names—the stadiums' real names as the links with the temporary names FIFA will impose set in boldface and in parentheses underneath the real names. The articles for the 2015 Women's World Cup and the 2006 men's World Cup both use that format, for example. 1995hoo (talk) 17:44, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan! --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 04:01, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I saw where you put them and that you got reverted. Take a look at the other two articles noted above. There, the FIFA-imposed names are in the table listing the venues and showing photos of them, not in the map template as it appears you tried here. You might want to try that format—apparently putting them in the map template busted something. (I'd offer to help except I will not have time this morning.) 1995hoo (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Tournament start date
While FIFA's press release from last month mentioned the final would be played on 19 July 2026, no information was released on when the tournament would start. While many outlets reported the tournament would likely last 39 days (placing the opening match on 11 June), this was not included in FIFA's release. The new international match calendar has now been published, listing the tournament window as "TBC – 19 July". As it seems the starting date has not been officially confirmed, should the June 11 date be removed from the article? S.A. Julio (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've now updated the article accordingly. S.A. Julio (talk) 17:35, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

The "Format" section
When one reads the not-so-short "Format" section, one isn't informed what the actual format will be until the third subsection or the fifth (and last) paragraph in total.

Reflecting new information doesn't only mean adding some text at the end and changing the verb tenses in the previous text. Primacy should be given to the situation now, while the early proposals and reactions lose importance and should be whittled down. --Theurgist (talk) 00:54, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I've edited the section accordingly, check it out now. I did not delete any information from the backstory but toned it down significantly. --Theurgist (talk) 21:25, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Gallery of Logos
Each of the host cities has a logo and I'm trying to display it. They have been all released as of today, and I need some help in getting these images to display. If you can explain or contribute, your help is greatly appreciated. Please edit the source if you can and when it is working, place it in the "Marketing" section. Thank you.

Digitslain12 (talk) 21:20, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not an image repository. These would belong on a Wikimedia Commons gallery page, if at all, but they are not freely licensed or eligible to be in the public domain due to the complexity of the trophy. Nonetheless, city variants of the main logo are not needed on the main page.  Sounder Bruce  21:43, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * alright i'll upload them here and someone can create it. thanks and congrats on getting it too. Digitslain12 (talk) 21:46, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

2026 FIFA Logo in Times Square
Please add the 2026 Times Square Numerals and unveiled 2026 World Cup Logo reference in prepapation for the 2026 FIFA World Cup. Use for ciation: www.njspotlightnews.org/video/new-jerseys-world-cup-logo-unveiled-at-times-square AVSASPH (talk) 19:55, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Edits by User:Greg Rodrick
The above-noted user is repeatedly editing this article, without sources, to list Edmonton as a host venue. His talk page shows a history of problematic edits involving Edmonton topics, which makes me conclude he’s a serial vandal. But I can’t police it further or take to ANI because I need to leave for a funeral Mass in a little while (and I have to change clothes etc.). Can someone else please police this matter? Thanks in advance. 1995hoo (talk) 13:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2023
The end of the first paragraph writes “Argentina is the defending champion”, but they have yet to qualify for the tournament, so cannot be a “defending” champion. This sentence should be removed entirely as it is not currently relevant to the competition. 174.7.171.105 (talk) 17:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Until Argentina is eliminated from contention for the 2026 World Cup, they are the defending champions. – PeeJay 17:45, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with PeeJay. I'd add that as a further technical matter (and I may be mistaken on whether this is still the case), FIFA has always treated the entire World Cup process, including qualification, as one massive tournament and sometimes refers to what we all think of as the "World Cup" (the month-long event every four years) as the "World Cup finals." (Note the plural "finals," distinguishing it from the "final" in the sense of the championship game.) If you view the process from that point of view, then Argentina would be defending the championship throughout the qualification process as well—which is consistent with other sports where a team must qualify for the playoffs (for example, the New Jersey Devils won the Stanley Cup in 1995 and were the defending champions throughout the following season up until they failed to qualify for the 1996 Stanley Cup Playoffs). Argentina's defense of their championship begins with the start of the 2026 World Cup cycle. (To be clear, I don't know whether FIFA still uses the "finals" terminology to refer to the "main event." It's fair to recognize that it's a somewhat subtle distinction that would likely be lost on most readers and that would be likely to cause confusion between the month-long event and the championship game. I'm just using it to help illustrate the reasoning.) 1995hoo (talk) 18:40, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The reason I disagree that Argentina are the defending champions is because the article is about the month-long 2026 FIFA World Cup event, to which which Argentina have not yet qualified. They are currently the reigning champions, but not the defending champions and thus are currently not relevant to an article about the month-long tournament. 2605:B100:956:15E9:4817:4927:7048:6392 (talk) 22:21, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2023
- !FIFA partners!!FIFA World Cup sponsors!! Amiriscool2023 (talk) 02:57, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  03:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Marketing
Amiriscool2023 (talk) 02:58, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2023
Change the starting date to June 11. it is confirmed by the international match calendar. 109.76.171.10 (talk) 10:32, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  13:38, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_International_Match_Calendar 109.76.171.10 (talk) 09:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citation on Wikipedia. Among other problems, the page you cited has no source given for the dates you claim. The problem with citing Wikipedia is obvious: A malcreant could wrongly edit one article and then claim that wrong edit justifies an edit to another article. A reliable non-Wikipedia source (preferably a press release or similar from FIFA itself) showing when the games will begin would be the best information, as we’ve already seen the media throwing around umpteen dates. 1995hoo (talk) 11:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Following up to add, I looked at the cited source from FIFA in the other article and found that it specifically says "TBC" (to be confirmed) for the start date of the 2026 World Cup, so I removed the June 11 date from that article as unsourced information. This shows why citing Wikipedia is not acceptable. 1995hoo (talk) 11:52, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Mention of soccer
It describes this as a soccer tournament when it's actually football. I intend to change it if that's OK? RyanPLB (talk) 16:55, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This article uses American English, so "football" should not be used. Please read the notice at the top of the page and previous discussions for the rationale.  Sounder Bruce  17:51, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The only acceptable alternative would be association football, which should appease everyone in that it appeases no one. – PeeJay 22:40, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a worldwide tournament. It is not a Noth American tournament, so without a doubt, Football is the word to use. Israelitek (talk) 07:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Same here. When 2018 FIFA World Cup was held in Russia no one put "футбол" in the article, and in 2022 FIFA World Cup article I don't find any mention of "كرة القدم" (that's of course, except for original slogan in infobox). Tournament is organised by FIFA, which literally has football in it's name. I understand that 2026 FIFA World Cup article maybe taken over by our American friends, but I still believe that the same template for all articles about the same competition should be used. Red Devil (talk) 09:23, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * MOS:TIES is still the rule to follow. As Russia and Qatar are not predominantly English-speaking, they cannot be used to support your position. "Soccer" is a straightforward term that does not invite any potential for confusion, unlike "football", and is part of American and Canadian English. That's all that needs to be said.  Sounder Bruce  19:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * MOS:RETAIN is also relevant in this situation. 1995hoo (talk) 19:47, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * 2010 FIFA World Cup doesn't use Afrikaners, does it? My point is that World Cup is global event and articles should have the same format and template, regardless who organizes it. When you follow links and read subsequent articles one after another, you read about football, then football, then soccer, and then football again - it's inconsistency. That's my point of view, but I believe each World Cup article shoulde have the same version of English. Red Devil (talk) 07:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Afrikaans (not "Afrikaners," which refers to an ethnic group) is not English, so you're not disagreeing with SounderBruce in any practical way. I recall the South African president opening the "FIFA Soccer World Cup" (his words), and I note the games in Johannesburg were played in Soccer City, but I don't know what the prevailing term is in South Africa, so I'm not inclined to get into that debate. All the World Cup articles do follow the same "template." The word "template" refers to how the article is organized (qualification, venues, etc.). It doesn't refer to using the exact same wording every single time. Besides, this argument has already taken place and there was no consensus in favor of not using "soccer." You're basically just making the same arguments over again. Plus, as noted above, WP:RETAIN applies. 1995hoo (talk) 12:12, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * My bad, but still South African English is at first place in mentioned above MOS:TIES. I know there's been this discussion, but it still here and I just replied and gave my opinion, that's all. I realize that given the fact that article is already created this way, there will be no amendments, but it doesn't change the fact that for me and many others it still doesn't sound right. But I understand that because it will be played in USA, Americans take over the way it's written :) It's just something we don't agree with.. Red Devil (talk) 20:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * MOS:CONSISTENT Should be applied as it is a FIFA  Football tournamenT. FIFA, the governing body itself does not have soccer in its vocabulary concerning the tournament.
 * MOS:TIES Doesn't apply as you assume the audience is predominantly North American. International audience applies = Football or at the very least, Association Football, or mention both Israelitek (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * See reply to "Red Devil" above. You also ignore WP:RETAIN. FIFA's terminology does not control anything. 1995hoo (talk) 12:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * For topics with strong ties to Commonwealth of Nations countries and other former British territories, use Commonwealth English orthography, largely indistinguishable from British English in encyclopedic writing (excepting Canada, which uses a different orthography). Israelitek (talk) 12:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

As far as I can remember, the consensus has been that if an Olympics, a FIFA World Cup, or any other international event is held in the United States, then that particular article is in American English. When applying WP:TIES, the national variety of English has been that of the host country if it is a predominantly English-speaking nation. Hence the 1994 FIFA World Cup page is also currently in American English, along with 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup and 2003 FIFA Women's World Cup; and 2028 Summer Olympics, 2002 Winter Olympics, 1996 Summer Olympics, 1984 Summer Olympics, and others. And 2010 Winter Olympics, 1988 Winter Olympics, and 1976 Summer Olympics use Canadian English with the month-day-year date format. Zzyzx11 (talk) 11:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Greenland/French Guiana
There's a map showing countries who are in FIFA, and Greenland is not... but this place is a part of Denmark

And French Guiana is an integral part of France

Montalban (talk) 15:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The football associations of French Guiana and Greenland are distinct from those of France and Denmark, respectively, and neither is a member of FIFA, so the map is not incorrect. — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 17:51, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Jkudlick is Right, Though French Guiana Still Participants in CONCACAF Matches. Notably The CONCACAF Nations League and CONCACAF Gold Cup Playoffs. Orange Anomaly. (talk) 01:13, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Only US stadiums being used for knockout stages
"FIFA announced that all matches in the knockout stage will be hosted in the United States" (source).

Feels like this should be mentioned in the Venues section. ed g2s &bull; talk 12:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Venues
The current showing of the venues is too congested. City (town) should be the city proper (e.g., Arlington not Dallas). The table of venues should be simplified further (e.g., venues at 2022 World Cup and 2024 Copa América).


 * ❌ As noted below, using the name of a larger metropolitan area (e.g. Los Angeles) instead of a smaller locale (e.g. Inglewood) is not only acceptable, but is used with precedent in many other articles throughout Wikipedia. — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 23:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Additionally, the removal of images lessens the visual appeal for the reader. I've had to revert the changes at 2023 CONCACAF Gold Cup and 2024 Copa América for this very reason; we need a consensus before such a drastic change can be implemented. Jalen Folf   (talk)  00:14, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2023
There are no games happening in New York City or State. Those claiming to be affiliated are actually all being held in East Rutherford, New Jersey. The words "New York City" should be replaced with "East Rutherford," and the phrase "New York/New Jersey" should just say "New Jersey." To be clear, East Rutherford, New Jersey is in no way part of New York City or State. Alanesl (talk) 18:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jalen Folf   (talk)  18:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the proposed change because the reference is clearly to the New York/New Jersey market, the New York metropolitan area as it were. The same format is used for other venues where the stadium is in a smaller municipality within a larger metropolitan area, such as Foxboro for Boston or Inglewood for LA. The current format is not ambiguous and is likely more useful to most readers who may not be familiar with obscure locations like East Rutherford. (Someone else might cite the mysterious "bid book" and say we should follow what that says. I've never seen it and don't know where to find it, so I take no position on that issue.) 1995hoo (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

The World Cup is NOT coming to New York AT ALL
There are no World Cup games happening in the City or State of New York. This is false advertising and frankly insulting to the fine people of New York City. To claim there are games in New York City is pure marketing, and objectively false. They should not get to use our name, if they are not having any games here. All games claiming to be part of New York are actually being held in East Rutherford, New Jersey, a car dependent suburb with poor, mono-modal, infrastructure that is in no way part of the fabric of New York City.

I recommend all mention of New York City and State be removed from this page to reflect this sad reality. Alanesl (talk) 18:19, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ❌ It is listed as 'New York/New Jersey', following . Do you have a source which supports the venue instead being called 'New Jersey'? Sungodtemple (talk &#8226; contribs) 18:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Then what about Los Angeles/Dallas/Boston/Miami/San Francisco/Monterrey/Guadalajara? 184.82.140.153 (talk) 04:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Never mind, added already 184.82.140.153 (talk) 04:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Schedule release
Should mention somewhere that the schedule will be released February 4, 2024. Unless the schedule section is already planned, then add that if it hasn't been added. 184.82.140.153 (talk) 04:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * No offense, but why does it matter? That seems like a WP:NOTNEWS situation. The schedule is released when it is released and the article can then be updated to reflect it. 1995hoo (talk) 14:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2024
I just wanted to add the flags to the host countries area. 2400:C600:4717:7E01:1:0:9753:B89C (talk) 17:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * . Support - I can see that it may be likely for readers to look that up, I support. Besides, there is no harm in this redirect. 🅲🅻🅴🆃🅴🆁 (a word) 02:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

2026 World Cup and 2026 Super Bowl
It has come to my attention that both the World Cup and the Super Bowl are taking place in Santa Clara. Should we mention? DeathCat36 (talk) 00:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think that is a non-issue, you could mention it in the Levi's Stadium page however. IntMaMis (talk) 18:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Broadcasting
i have to suggest that Broadcasting Rights Panel have to align in


 * Broadcasting Rights Panel have to align in wikitable panel Nauman335 (talk) 07:33, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

this is better Nauman335 (talk) 07:32, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Small note, but YLE should be written Yle. The all-caps version hasn't officially been used in 12 years. This mistake is still often seen in Wikipedia, what would be the best way to get it fixed? Source in Finnish: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.150.64.252 (talk) 07:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Adding official FIFA stadium names to the venue format
I'd personally like for the venue information to mention the official FIFA stadium names for the 2026 World Cup. This is a procedure that is clearly lined out in FIFA's rules (Specifically that you can't have the name of the venue have a sponsor that isn't an official FIFA sponsor and if you do the stadium will be given a neutral name), so for example MetLife Stadium gets the name "NYNJ Stadium". This has been a common procedure throughout World Cup pages (See 2006 as a major example) on Wikipedia and this should be carried over to this page as well. IntMaMis (talk) 18:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I suggest taking a look at the article for the 2015 Women's World Cup in Canada and following the format used there—at least two stadiums used temporary names for that tournament and the venue table showed both (the real name as the link, given that those are the articles' names, and the temporary FIFA name in parentheses). That seems like a useful way to handle it. 1995hoo (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @1995hoo@IntMaMis
 * You can see the official stadium names at the FIFA tournament website. Now, my concern is that the table is going to get crowded if we start listing the host city, stadium name, stadium's sponsored name, and the stadium location. Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 21:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * After looking at that website, I think adding the FIFA names seems pointless because in effect it would just mean repeating the metropolitan areas' names over again. It would be redundant to the extreme—even if there is a city name that is used by another city somewhere else that could be confused (and I don't think the other Vancouver in Washington State qualifies!), the table provides the necessary context already. To the extent it's necessary to clarify, perhaps the way to do it is to drop a footnote along the lines of, "FIFA rules prohibit tournament organizers from referring to stadiums by corporate names that do not belong to FIFA sponsors. For purposes of the 2026 World Cup, stadiums with sponsored names will be referred to by their metropolitan area names, e.g., Boston Stadium." (I would avoid using the word "official" in the article because it doesn't really add anything in this context and because arguably the "official" names are the normal ones and the FIFA-imposed names are temporary names, regardless of whether FIFA considers them "official" for its purposes.) 1995hoo (talk) 21:42, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Agreed - "Boston's Boston Stadium, also known as Gillette Field in Foxborough, Massachussets" is too many words saying very little. Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 02:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * We either need the sponsored names or the non-sponsored name being used, but not both. My preference would be for the non sponsored names, to match the FIFA documentation on the stadium names for this tournament. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Marketing
There are three new logos that were unveiled during the schedule release. They have stylized elements of their flag (Canada red and with a maple leaf, Mexico green with an eagle, and the United States blue with stars and stripes) Can we try and include them? 47.153.148.108 (talk) 23:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't see any need to do that. We already have a representative logo in the infobox and we don't include any of the other logos. — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 02:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


 * One logo is fine, using all of them would violate WP:NFCC- minimal use of non free media. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Lint errors in map caption
You mentioned in a recent that the previous version of the map caption contained lint errors. Could you explain in layman's terms what this means, and perhaps suggest an alternative solution? I dislike how the "Central Region" column takes up space that the other two columns could have instead to fit "San Francisco Bay Area" and "New York/New Jersey" on a single line. — AFC Vixen 🦊 08:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The nobreak template uses tags to mark an in-line piece of content, like a few words, as "do not wrap this text". In HTML, span tags are not allowed to wrap around "block" content, which is content that extends across multiple lines or that contains div tags. In my edit, I removed the nobreak template where it was wrapping div-tag-based content. If you want to use nobreak/nowrap, it needs to wrap only a short piece of text. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I also removed the font-size specification, per MOS:FONTSIZE. Fonts can't be rendered at less than 85% of the default text size for the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:34, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I've been toying around with the Div col, and this was the best replica of the previous col-begin-based caption I could make for now (right). I made use of a single Ubl instead of three, and strategically placed non-breaking spaces to produce blank rows that help populate the columns in the exact same way they were before. Does this produce any errors? If not, is there any way to customise the width of one particular column? If there isn't, is there any alternate way "2 San Francisco Bay Area" and "14 New York/New Jersey" can be forced to appear on one line without using nobreak and producing an error? — AFC Vixen 🦊 19:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


 * When you removed the  tags, would that not have solved the problem with the nobreak? Or does the Linter error still exist with col-begin/col-break/col-end or Div col/Div col end? — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 17:34, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The problem was that nobreak was wrapping Module:overlay, which uses div tags. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you have any answers to the questions I had, or no? — AFC Vixen 🦊 11:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I will answer this. div col also uses div tags, as does col begin. I suspect the usage of these templates will produce the same errors Jonesey had mentioned. Jalen Folf   (talk)  15:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * For the time being then, if there really isn't a way to customise the widths of individual columns in Div col, then I'll simply truncate "San Francisco Bay Area" to simply "San Francisco" and "New York/New Jersey" to "New York". — AFC Vixen 🦊 15:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If I understand Jonesey correctly,  can exist within   without any errors, but the issue is templates and modules that use   can't exist within   without throwing errors. I wonder if using Module:Overlay is required in the map legend, or if we can use bgcolor (which uses   tags), e.g.   to produce . — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 17:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: I have created a map legend at my sandbox that may work, but it requires widening the map to at least 400px. I have legends of 400px, 410px, and 420px there. — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 18:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

I think with the truncated names is fine, especially if it means we can keep the map as small as reasonably possible at its 340px width. — AFC Vixen 🦊 18:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I understand the concerns about map size. Reducing font size to 85% allows for 340px. See over there. &rarr; — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 17:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I'd be somewhat okay with this. However, Jonesey, you implied in how use of templates like col-3 in Jkudlick's example on the right are "generally not recommended". I'd like to know what informed this opinion. — AFC Vixen 🦊 17:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Pinging . — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * My recollection is that using a fixed number of columns is less compatible with accessibility, varying screen widths and font sizes, or both, but I am unable to locate that guidance now. I could be misremembering, or something might have changed. Meanwhile, reducing the font size as shown immediately above is not allowed per MOS:SMALLFONT; it reduces the font size to 76% of the default font size for the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I would think three explicit columns would be acceptable in this particular scenario, as the venues are split into three geographical regions. However, I misunderstood SMALLFONT and understand the resulting text in my revision here is not allowed in an article. I have to concur with that what we currently have in the article is the best compromise that is in compliance with MOS and other guidelines. — Jkudlick &#x2693; (talk) 02:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The text looks good on my screen as of this time stamp. The font size is 88% of the default, and none of the text is wrapping or extending past the boundary of the box. I think we've got it resolved. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)