Talk:25 O'Clock

Articles for Deletion debate
This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. Owen&times; &#9742;  21:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Requested move

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25 o'Clock → 25 O'Clock — Capitalisation rules as per the Chicago Manual of Style. Proposal also affects 9 o'Clock Gun, The 7 o'Clock News, Three o'Clock High, Twelve o'Clock High, Twelve o'Clock High (TV series) and Ten o'Clock Classics. DeLarge 21:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey

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Survey - in support of the move

 * 1) Support as nominee, and as per previous discussions at Talk:The 11 O'Clock Show, Talk:WP:MOSTM and Talk:WP:MOSCAPS. --DeLarge 21:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Support. Forget whether or not this is common usage - "o'Clock" is patently incorrect.  Chris cheese whine 22:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Support. Per above, plus: While an argument may be made that prepositions in titles are lowercase, the "o" in "o'clock", while representing a preposition in a contraction, is in fact no longer a preposition, but part of an adverb. While it may be contracted from "of the clock", I daresay it is no more separable into its former components than "fortnight" to "fourteen night". -- Sig Pig  |SEND - OVER 14:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Support per SigPig. "Of the clock" essentially becomes a single word, due to the contraction (which a quick glance into my good old Oxford dictionary confirms) so it should be either "O'Clock" or "O'clock" in titles. - Cyrus XIII 11:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey - in opposition to the move



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This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. --14:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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Release category
In the United Kingdom, the Official Chart Company defines an album/LP as being over 25 minutes long OR containing more than than four different songs.Official UK Charts Album Rules 25 O'Clock contains 6 songs and is 26 minutes 43 seconds long - so in the country of release it would have been listed for chart purposes as an LP/album.

The album is best referred to as a Mini-LP, being a 12-inch or 10-inch vinyl with a playing time of between twenty and thirty minutes, and around seven tracks.

The references referring to 25 O'Clock as an EP are probably caused by a different usage of the term outside the United Kingdom. memphisto 11:54, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Link is un-reliable there are several other Music sites from The UK that List it as an EP and it was known as a EP on wikipedia for over 5 years until you changed it. Also all that ref stated was album and singles sales.--Greaymarshess (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

In what way is the link unreliable, it is the criteria for how albums have always been classified in the United Kingdom. I see in one of your edits you use the Alice in Chains release Jar of Flies as an example of an EP, but as I explained above this has no relevance to United Kingdom releases. memphisto 00:21, 20 November 2012 (UTC)