Talk:25th G8 summit

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Trivia
I would like to see the following incorporated into the text of this article; but without any source citations, it is impossible to distinguish these anecdotes from mere fiction:
 * President Bill Clinton paid the Kölsch brewery Zur Malzmühle ("The Malt Mill") a surprise visit. Originally, the Clinton entourage had approached Herr Lommerzheim, owner of Gaststätte Lommerzheim (aka "Lommis") in Köln-Deutz, across the river. When asked to close his Kneipe so Clinton could have a quiet drink there, Lommerzheim reportedly replied that he would do no such thing, since it would mean his regulars would have no place to go have a drink. The Clinton entourage then had to contact Malzmühle on short notice.


 * The summit was held in several locations in the old town of Cologne. After baggage checks, visitors and local people were allowed up to five meters distance from the statesmen on their walk through the old town. The heads of government were greeted with waving and some clapping on their way past, a scene very much in contrast to those of the G8 summits that were about to follow in the coming years.

I especially liked that tidbit about the luggage and the comment which used this small detail as a kind of yardstick for measuring how much things will be changed in future summits -- but, again, without any supporting reference, what else is to be done? --Tenmei (talk) 19:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

EU participation
There is a slow-motion edit war about one aspect of 25th G8 summit.

Beginning with the 3rd G7 summit in London in 1977, the President of the European Commission or his successor President of the European Union has been a formal participant in successive annual events -- see  In each article about G7/G8 summits, Lucie-Marie has deleted text about EU participation. These serial reverts ignored hyperlinks in the supporting inline citations which were also deleted. Despite attempts to engage discussion here, no consensus has been achieved. Her opinions here have merit, but they remain only opinions. No cited source supports these reverts. Our core policies require something different. WP:V seems relevant because "the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth &mdash; whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true."


 * Group of Seven or G7+1


 * 1977 3rd G7 summit, London
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 * 2012 38th G8 summit, US?

A slow-motion edit war is worrisome; but discussion can be constructive -- see Muskoka 2010: G8 members

The edit history of 36th G8 summit records an unhelpful pattern:
 * 1) diff 17:40, 9 July 2008 Lucy-marie (6,628 bytes) (→Composition of summit leaders)
 * 2) diff 16:48, 20 July 2008 Lucy-marie (10,987 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit: EU is invited and could be left off the invite list so it is not a oermenet member)
 * 3) diff 21:54, 10 April 2009 Lucy-marie m (24,339 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit)
 * 4) diff 19 March 2010 JLogan (24,837 bytes) (EU is a permanent participant, not merely a guest. check the main page)

The same pattern is seen at 37th G8 summit:
 * 1) diff  21:54, 10 April 2009 Lucy-marie m (12,394 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit)
 * 2) diff 09:28, 19 March 2010 JLogan (12,628 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit: EU is permanent participant, not just a guest)

This thread may help resolve the issues, or it may help bring clearer focus. --Tenmei (talk) 02:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

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