Talk:2NE1/Archive 1

First song
2ne1's first song was not lollipop, lollipop is actually big bangs song, 2ne1's first song was Fire —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.166.230.35 (talk) 09:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Can't say I agree... most sources clearly lable the artist as "2NE1 featuring Big Bang"... Bcmin12 (talk) 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Um, not most. 2ne1 was only a cameo appearance, since it is commonly referred to as Big Bang feat. 2NE1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.95.222.227 (talk) 03:06, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

--- Depends on what you mean by "first song". It was the first song that all four appeared on together and their first musical reference as 2ne1. Lollipop the digital single is not 2ne1's debut song, though it was later included in their first mini album. The song is not 2ne1 featuring Big Bang though. Korea's Four largest online portals either list it as a Big Bang song with 2ne1 featuring or as a it's own separate listing artist BB/2ne1. Mel0n lists it as Bigbang, 2ne1. MNET lists the artist as Big Bang or alternatively Bigbang, 2ne1. Bugs lists as "Big Bang & 2NE1 (투애니원)" with "Big Bang & 2NE1 (투애니원)" being its own separate category of artist Soribada lists it as "빅뱅, 2NE1" with "빅뱅, 2NE1" being its own separate category of artist, The Mini album lists the artist as BigBang&2ne1 (reflected in Itunes listing) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tazanya (talk • contribs) 03:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Park Bom's "Unrealeased Single"
Park Bom was featured in a song named Anystar with Lee Hyori and Lee Jun Ki where she played the girl who mysteriously - requestedly replaced Hyori at her concert. Then she released her own version of Anystar featuring G-Dragon and Gummy,which became more popular than the original by Hyori.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nskmweZ0uQA

Preceeded By wondergirls?
They were..uh.. obviously not

First of all wondergirls are from JYP and 2ne1's from YG entertainment And the wondergirls are still performing —Preceding unsigned comment added by HafiyMafiy (talk • contribs) 10:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Band member details
The page contains no information on the band (it used to), is there a specific reason for this? --90.211.224.126 (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. The content failed our policies: WP:TRIVIA / WP:V / WP:OR / WP:BLP etc. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  23:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Dead link
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newer sections of 2NE1 article reads like Allkpop
Allkpop isn't an encyclopedia. I'm also sorry to say, it sounds very choppy, like some foreign fans who just used word-for-word translation, so there are a lot of verbs out of tense. (I don't have anything against foreign fans, but I'm sure if I got caught editing Korean articles, they'd club me too.)

For example, "However, as the day progressed, the song ultimately became first and certificated as PERFECT ALL-KILL." ... it would have been different if that was 'certified platinum'.. but it's just a media-spun term.

"2NE1 is known for a "unique and edgier style".[56] During their debut single, the group was noted for being "hip hop warriors," but changed this perception with "I Don't Care" into strong, feminine women." This really sounds like a press release from YG.

"Their official fanclub name is Blackjack which is now one with the most number of members." where is the source? Poor grammar.

Etc. Very sloppy in the end. That's why I marked this for neutrality of style. I will fix it the major parts right now, so please help! I may not catch everything.

okay, I finished editing, I cut out a bunch of places where someone wrote about their outfits.. unless a music critic thought it was important, DON'T PUT IT THERE. "Their vulgar outfits shocked fans" isn't really fodder for Wikipedia. You can find that on any ol' 2NE1 forums.

I'd like someone else besides me to make sure everything is edited all right and style is no longer biased.. then you can remove the NPOV language up top!

thanks!

Blupomodoro (talk) 19:52, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

ps I didn't fix any broken links :P

I think what would help is if we don't include all the news about their "success" in the charts when ever they release a new single/album/EP. Just make articles about those singles and put them there. This article is mainly about 2NE1 so when people come to look them up on the internet and stumble across this page they would want to know more about the group only and not their 'page of trophies'. You know what I mean? I think that would help keep this article neutral. I'll check this article from time to time and see what I can do. Blueknightex (talk) 03:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

thanks! Yes, I think it would be better if we all stopped putting early news stories about their successes without sustained proofs.. on a related note, Jeremy Scott, a designer that 2NE1 wears a lot, also needs a crapload of cleaning up too.. even more than 2NE1, if anyone can help! Blupomodoro (talk) 23:27, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

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I've noticed a lot of the related articles are very informally written (example: saying "Sandara would later go on to do this" instead of using her last name "Park"), full of spelling errors and are very biased (positively, but still biased). I'll try to edit them, but I wanted to bring it to people's attention. 24.222.103.179 (talk) 17:11, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

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actually certified All-Kill and certified PERFECT ALL KILL isn't a term of art, it is the name of a status that Instiz gives out with a very specific and exact meaning. http://ichart.instiz.net/ in 2011 2ne1 was one of only six (i may be off on the number) other artists to get this designation and the only artists get it for 3 songs in 2011. The one and only.

The criteria is fully explained here in Korean http://www.instiz.net/popup_ichart.htm?mode=2 but the jist is you have to be #1 on realtime and #1 on daily at ALL the music sites AT THE SAME TIME.

NO other music site in korea gives out "official" allkills and perfect all kill but instiz, though the media does label certain other activities (like being #1 on real time or having a bunch of #1s and #2s as allkill to liven up their reporting)

2NE1's Positions
2NE1's positions are stated on their offical Facebook page as CL (leader, vocal, rap), Minzy (vocal, rap), Dara (vocal), Bom (lead vocal). Can some change them and put a citation by it? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.78.79.57 (talk) 03:43, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Done The positions are constantly vandalized, though. It will be hard to keep them unchanged. --Moscowconnection (talk) 00:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Page layout
What happened to the layout of the page? Can anyone fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.148.202 (talk) 15:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Na-na-na-na
How can you "make em say na-na-na-na" (from "Can't Nobody") and why would you want to? Kauffner (talk) 21:05, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Pejorative comment?
Under reference link [6] there is the following comment: "They look like hobos without makeup." Can someone please remove that? I tried, but I wasn't able to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.222.162.152 (talk) 01:23, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Done Evaders99 (talk) 01:37, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Concerts
I think we should not list every single date of their concert because not all of them are significant. Why don't someone just create a separate article especially for their tour. jmarkfrancia (talk) 15:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Adidas Commercial
I do believe that it should be noted that 2NE1 appeared in an Adidas commercial with Nicki Minaj and big Sean, as it was one of their first major appearances in American pop culture. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN39_6CPMWs 108.5.107.137 (talk) 23:31, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Category Missing Category:South Korean girl groups|South Korean girl groups
Category missing: Category:South Korean girl groups|South Korean girl groups I'm unable to add category, becaus of semi-protection. Is there anybody who can do this please? An furthermore: Why I can't post a Wiki-Link at this disc-page? --Kettentaucher (talk) 04:20, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I have added the category.--Cattus talk 15:04, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Member Positions
CL is the leader, main rapper, lead vocalist and lead dancer, Dara is the vocalist, Bom is the main vocalist and Minzy is a vocalist, main dancer and maknae. Thanks :) HyunA27 (talk) 07:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The positions as described in the article now are sourced from the official Facebook (the official Japanese website says the same thing). If you have any other reliable source for what you say, please provide the link. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:09, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

2NE1 FIGHTING!!
2NE1 FIGHTING!! (what bom usually says) !! Haha, so .. Hi :) I don't really understand this, so.. Am I sending to fans of 2NE1 or 2NE1 O.o sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.137.197.226 (talk) 15:12, 29 March 2013 (UTC)