Talk:2 Black 2 Strong

The Source
There's coverage in The Source, both articles and reviews, if any editor has access to those (very) old issues, or can somehow find them online...thank you. Caro7200 (talk) 17:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Attribution
Text and references copied from 2 Black 2 Strong to Flag desecration. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Citation to the Supreme Court decision
It is definitely "on topic" and was both the predicate for and the subject of his most notable song. It also provides readers with context. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:39, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Parenthetically...
"Parenthetically, in the United States, the Supreme Court of the United States has recognized flag burning as being protected by the First Amendment.[A]"

This is true, but off topic in general, especially in the lede of an article about the group.

One of They Might Be Giants best known songs is about the composition of the Sun. Their article does not contain a parenthetical statement about the International Astronomical Union's statements on the composition of the Sun because it is not about the group. The Monkees similarly lacks discussion of the train schedules for Clarksville. I'm sure the American Psychological Association has positions on hand holding and needing support that would be out of place in The Beatles.

Johnson's inclusion in the song the group recorded is noted in the section on the EP. That is relevant and sufficient. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 17:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * See above. Reasonable minds and viewpoints on relevancy will differ. "Your mileage may differ."  We will have to agree to disagree; and see what other editors may add to the frae.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * To add to the lede in Milli Vanilli: "Parenthetically, the American Academy of Polygraph examiners finds that results from lie detector tests are less accurate when the subject is female."


 * Currently, this off-topic addition to the lede, cites a primary source -- a SCOTUS decision made before the group existed. Every song ever recorded deals with something that existed prior to it. The Catholic church's pronouncements on the Devil are not relevant to the Rolling Stones. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 19:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Actually, you are wrong about "primary source." I moved the paragraph.  Your hyperbolic argument about the Rolling Stones is silly and fallacious and not worthy of refutation.  This song in fact is specifically referencing the case.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 20:57, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * My apologies, it's not a primary source, it's an off-topic source. (The National Constitution Center's article about the 1989 Supreme Court of the United States decision, prior decisions and actions taken by Congress surprisingly does not discuss a non-notable song by a marginally notable rapper in the early 1990s.) Perhaps the section on "Doin' Hard Time on Planet Earth" should include a parenthetical discussing the DEA?
 * Material from sources discussing topics other than the topic of the article -- the SCOTUS case, the time of the last train to Clarksville, the Devil, etc. -- are off-topic. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 22:38, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I moved the whole thing into a footnote. Hope that assuages your concern.  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:44, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * And to respond in the same manner in which you offered the suggestion that we add a reference to the DEA to the article – go for it. I don't think it's helpful, but we should see what you can come up with.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:58, 18 June 2020 (UTC)