Talk:30 Days of Night/Archive 1

30 Days of Night: Eben & Stella
I understand that it's bad form to edit a page to which you're directly-connected, and the appropriate place to point out errors is on the TALK page, yes? That said, I am listed as an artist on 30 Days of Night: Eben & Stella -- Justin Randall is the artist. I co-wrote the book. (Kelly Sue DeConnick) Kelly Sue 19:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! Floydzamarripa 15:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Spoiler Alert
This article casually mentions that Eben dies at the sunrise. This kinda gives away one of the final elements of the story and should probably be preceded by some sort of spoiler warning.

"Spoiler warnings are redundant when used in "Plot", "Character history", or other sections that are self-evidently going to discuss a plot or similar." See Spoiler. Sillythekid 06:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

From that spoiler article... "A section header such as "Plot" or "Overview" can be ambiguous as to the presence of detailed spoilers, particularly for a newcomer to Wikipedia." The section in question is labeled Plot. I am an experienced Wikipedia user and was shocked by the casual mention of spoilers in the one paragraph summary of 30 days of night. I'm going to mark it with a spoiler alert. Bigmantonyd 23:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Per that guideline, I'm going to change the name of the section to "Plot summary" and remove the silly tag. I think that distinction is crazy, but I don't think it's at all crazy to think that somebody who reads an encyclopedia article expects to be told about the subject of the article, and that sombody who reads the "Plot" or "Plot summary" section of such an article expects to read a discussion of the plot, but does not want to be treated like an idiot. --Tony Sidaway 08:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't know if this is worth pointing out or not
Alaskan law enforcement is done by state troopers and police departments, there are no sheriffs.

The anon who removed the trivia section was me (oops, forgot to log in). Trivia sections should be put into the page or removed, as per wikipedia policy.
 * Alaska actually does not have sheriffs(or vampires for that matter). In reality, Eben Olemaun would be a member of the Alaska State Troopers or the North Slope Borough Police Department which provide police services to the city of Barrow.

There are any number of "unrealistic" elements in the story. Suspension of Disbelief people! :D If you are willing to read a story about vampires, then I'm sure nobody cares whether or not Alaska has sheriffs or not. Floydzamarripa 15:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

They may be calling it North Slope Sheriffs Department for a reason in the movie, just to avoid any lawsuits by the actual police department... Bwave 02:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Length of darkness
I think one thing worth pointing out in this article is that Barrow doesn't actually get 30 days of darkness--it gets more like 67. Actually, that's just the number of days the sun remains below the horizon. The days get shorter and shorter during the time leading up to that final dip, but once the sun goes below the horizon it isn't like it's suddenly pitch black. There is still dusk and twilight for at least a few hours even in the deepest winter nights in barrow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.210.219.131 (talk) 20:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Separate Barrow Article
Could we have a separate Barrow article since Barrow in the film and the comics is bullshit compared to real life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.90.38 (talk) 04:33, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * What? You mean like, Barrow, Alaska, an article that's been on the Wikipedia since 2002? EvilCouch 00:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Whether you think it's bull or not doesn't change the fact that it is based on Barrow alaska.

GA review
I am failing this article in the good article review because it is not broad in its coverage (criterion 3, I believe). There is no information on critical response, impact, success, etc - just plot summary. Certainly, the article can cover much more ground. Additionally, there is not a single reliable third-party source, only information from the publisher and creator. I would suggest looking into trade magazines that discuss it (Wizard, perhaps?) and glean from there. I think this will be a fairly substantial amount of work so I'm choosing not to put the review on hold. But, really, it's certainly a good start, so don't be discouraged and just keep plugging away!! --Midnightdreary 14:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's a helpful link, by the way. It might give you some better guidance as to what direction to go from here: WikiProject Comics/exemplars. --Midnightdreary 14:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Rumors of the Undead
Would it be possible for someone to write a section on the paperback novel that was written? I'm certainly not qualififed for it, but I'm sure someone else here who's read it is. --Linktoreality 21:22, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

quick question marlow dies in the the first book (im guessing) does he come back coz i heard eben comes back when he burns from sunlight —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.237.13 (talk) 19:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Language
The statement "The vampires speak an unknown ancient language created for the film... " is specific to the film adaptation, but doesn't appear in the section dedicated to that.

67.204.24.190 (talk) 08:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going to delete this part of the article in a week unless there are any objections. 67.204.24.190 (talk) 08:32, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've deleted the sentence. 67.204.24.190 (talk) 21:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The Blood Of Christ mini was an April Fool's Day joke
Check out the image and description on Flickr -->

Jboncha (talk) 00:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah he states this on forums.templesmith.com, It's an april fools joke that he made because of how ridiculous a comic about jesus actually being a vampire would be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabbyyellow (talk • contribs) 10:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Film Vs. Other Media Dispute
I thought "other media" was a more appropriate title for that section than "film," as it includes information regarding 30 Days of Night prose novels. The two could be separated, but there is not yet sufficient information to merit a section devoted solely to the film.--Sillythekid

yeah the books aren't really adaptions but a canon continuation by steve niles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabbyyellow (talk • contribs) 10:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Missing ISBNs
I'm working on getting these added. On Thermonuclear War (talk) 04:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Vampires, alternate evolution
Are the vampires a sub species of human that evolved along with humans or was it some disease that turned humans into vampires a long time ago and so they created their own culture?

In "Decent", a type of off shoot of human were created that lived underground and were vampire-esc.

-G

Within the 30 days of night comics there is a species of vampire that have evolved in the alaskan area, they have no eyes and are pretty much beast like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabbyyellow (talk • contribs) 21:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Vampire abilities
It was mentioned in the main article that some vampires have the ability to disguise themselves, which I assume is the ability to look completely human at one point, then shape-shift to their jagged teeth and claw form. It seems to me that this trait is actually universal; in return to Barrow, a girl vampire was able to do this before the attack to gain access to the town, and in Bloodsucker Tales a newly made vampire was able to do so as well unless he became enraged. The same newly made vampire was able to survive, at least temporarily, off the blood of animals and red meat, just in-case you wanted to include that as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.40.183 (talk) 03:26, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Split proposed
This article needs to be split into 1) 30 Days of Night, about the original comics mini-series and its HC/TPB graphic novel republications, and 2) 30 Days of Night (franchise), about the entire franchise - comics sequels, books, films, etc. Info on franchise elements that are not independently notable can go in the franchise article. article is confusingly about both the original mini-series and the franchise at the same time, and is incomplete with regard to each. It's a mess, and it's not how we do articles, frankly. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿ ¤ þ  Contrib.  06:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I personally believe that would be a great idea!!!--
 * SGCommand (Talk to Me · contribs · 20:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC))
 * This article is not so large that it requires a split. Many sections have already been split. I think the article should be alowed to grow into a coherent article rather than breaking it up before it has had a chance. Op47 (talk) 23:31, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Barrow/The Name of the Town
This series was written and completed long before Barrow was officially renamed to Utqiagvik. Since the story takes place within that historical context, I don't think we need to make any reference to the name change. The link to the Utqiagvik article (which clarifies the name change) should suffice.

Should we also edit the "Heart of Darkness" article to mention that the 'Congo Free State' was renamed 'Zaire' and is now called the 'Democratic Republic of the Congo'? -TheAnayalator (talk) 09:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC).