Talk:332nd Engineer General Service Regiment

V2 rocket plans section
The Anonymous user at IP 65.208.246.114 chose to delete a significant section of the V2 article without discussion on this talk page. The article as written is an accurate account of the events that led up to the removal of the documents from their hidden storage location. It combines information from "Crossbow and Overcast" and from the published regimental history. If the user at IP 65.208.246.114 desires to discuss this please do so before deleting large amounts of text. Mfields1 23:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * 65.208.246.114 (Talk) would you discuss content on the talk page before wholesale deletion? 'Crossbow and OVercast' describes the activities by 332nd and others in June 1945: "Thus, as of June 21, 1945, the Americans appeared to have won almost all of the V-2 spoils of war and an unbeatable lead over their Soviet and British allies in using them to build a long-range rocket program".  This is an accurate assessment of the first part of the activities (gathering the equipment, people and plans) and is the end of the chapter.  Two pages later the author describe "Overcast".  In America there was debate on whether to bring the German scientists to America.  In Europe there was no debate at all.  "British and Soviet Intelligence were making an intensive effort to lure hose same scientists away from the Americans." (see page 190).  It was clear that to obtain even these last documents were needed in the overall big picture.  If not, then why would the 332nd have been visited by Von Braun, Dr. Porter and Major Staver?  They were not planning to risk going into the territories (then) held by the Russians and British for an exercise.  This is the importance of this.  I will work out some way to describe it in the article.  Mfields1 21:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Source of documents for V-2 information
To the editor at IP 65.208.246.114. The USAMHI maintinas in its collections material relavent to this. Here is a website which will verify that this is a reliable source. There is no need to label it "questionable".

http://ahecmetalib.carlisle.army.mil:8991/V/E7QC1BV7IG3QDALS2TLU2Q4HVGFYLMGQLN3NBX5HCJLFQNNVS6-08532?func=meta-3&set_number=014508

For some reason the editor seems to want to use other sources as being more reliable or somehow more accurate? Please discuss, or do we need Wiki administrators to guide on this? Mfields1 17:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Actual Peer Review
Since an actual peer review has not been conducted to confirm whether the cited document supports the V-2 rocket claims by Mfields1, a request for the relevant pages has been made. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.25.52.233 (talk • contribs) 12:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * A peer review was conducted, please read the comments made above. The peer review request was made several months ago.  Mfields1 23:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Copy of Epilogue (pgs 391-396)
The user who requested the Bridging for Victory info should now have a copy of the Bridging for Victory epilogue, which indicates at least one claim by Mfields1 is fabricated. For example, Bridging for Victory does not claim Von Braun was with Staver and Porter when they persuaded the Executive Officer on June 21. Moreover, later information to the Executive Officer on "Friday, 29 June" (pg 392) would not have been "very exciting news" (pg 393) to the Executive Officer as claimed by Bridging for Victory -- the Executive Officer had the information over a week earlier! Also, since the Bridging for Victory epilogue (describing the mission for V-2 documents) is written as "We", but the author identifies he was not on the mission, it appears the epilogue was written by someone else, then added to the document and claimed as the author's work.

Had the peer review actually been conducted for the Wikipedia article, the invalidity of Mfields1's claim(s) in the section would have been easy to see, and the inaccuracy of Bridging for Victory regarding V-2 documents would have also been addressed. Perhaps Mfields1 will begin providing quotes from references to support further claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.34.22.119 (talk) 15:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * 'Bridging for Victory', page 392, states: "Werner Von Braun, thge German rocket scientific engineer, visited our regimental headquarters on Friday, 29 June. He explained in English, as best he could, that at first he and some of the German scientists had decided to destroy the V-2 rocket construction drawings before their capture by the allied army..."

This is the quote exactly as printed. The anonymous user at IP 69.34.22.119 is incorrect in writing this was fabricated. Mfields1 23:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Dead link
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 * http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/7676/duisberg.html
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--JeffGBot (talk) 06:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)