Talk:34th Street–Hudson Yards station

Busiest station?
Why, under any circumstances, would they ever presume to say that this terminal station on a single line would ever have higher ridership than times square? That's an even worse exaggeration and lie than even Miami planners have come up with to sell projects to the feds (factor of five on Metrorail "predicted" 250,000 got 50,000 during first two decades). This is closer to a factor of ten of what it will likely be a few years in. B137 (talk) 11:07, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


 * As far as I know the MTA didn't say that 34 St would be the single busiest station in the system. Or if they did, they communicated poorly. The actual projection they made was that 34 St will be the busiest  station that's only served by one line. Right now that honor goes to Flushing-Main St which has about 60,000 riders per weekday. 200,000 riders a day will be a huge leap from that. What's ironic is, the MTA projected 200,000 riders per weekday for 34 St in the future, and last year Times Sq-42 St surpassed 200,000 weekday riders for the first time, so the MTA's projection is pretty innocuous for now. But seeing as how the station's initial ridership was lower than the MTA's projections for opening date, you can't help but doubt their projections. PrecipiceofDuck (talk) 00:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC) ''(P.S. sorry for off-topicness, but how do I indent?)

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 * But 200,000, when no other station was pulling that, would imply busiest station. Of course it could be on his to extrapolate and say that to support 200,000 at this station, other stations would necessarily have to increase such that by the time it reached 200,000 it wouldnt be the busiest at that future time. Either way it is a ridiculous number. B137 (talk) 01:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

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Need some 2016 ridership examples
We all know ridership was low when it opened, and even lower after that, with dismal adjusted 2015 numbers. Comic Con was the only time of decent but not great ridership. Is there any ridership info for 2016? Either from individual event reports via news etc, or via deduction from other ridership info such as from the MTA itself. B137 (talk) 05:47, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

It will come in early 2017.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 12:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)


 * MTA should release the ridership figures by around April 22–28, 2017. It's the custom for the MTA to release the previous year's ridership info in the third week of April. epicgenius (talk) 15:51, 20 December 2016 (UTC)


 * - So how bout it, are they out yet? B137 (talk) 01:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Nope, sorry. epicgenius (talk) 12:00, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have updated the ridership.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:28, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks like that annual number roughly divided still comes out below 10,000 per weekday :/ B137 (talk) 22:01, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm surprised that ridership below 10,000 a day still puts it in the top half of ridership, 189 our of 422. B137 (talk) 18:11, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

2017 ridership looks like it would divide out to only about 10,000 a day. B137 (talk) 20:27, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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