Talk:3 Doors Down/Archive 1

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"Chet Roberts, who was formerly was Chris Henderson's guitar tech, took his spot." Great English.

Hello there! I do PR for 3DD and would really like to help with adding to their profile. The following is an approved fact that we are currently using on the band. this has been approved by the band and management. Let me know if there is anything additional I need to do to help expand their profile. And this is my first attempt so please understand I may have made errors in getting this info to you. :)

•	Formed in 1995, the Mississippi rock quintet has sold more than 15 million albums worldwide since their 2000 debut The Better Life, including two #1 Billboard Top Album debuts and seven #1 singles.

•	3 Doors Down have achieved industry recognition including three Grammy nominations, two time winner and multiple American Music Award nominee, multiple Billboard Award winner including Top Pop Artist Duo/Group Rock Track, a Blockbuster Entertainment Award for Favorite Group - New Artist, and five BMI Pop Awards for songwriting, including being named Songwriter of the Year in 2002.

•	3 Doors Down is lead singer/songwriter Brad Arnold, lead guitarist Matt Roberts, rhythm guitarist Chris Henderson, bassist Todd Harrell and drummer Greg Upchurch

The "Early years" section states: "A couple of years after performing together, Todd Harrell asked guitarist Chris Henderson to join the band."

The "Current Members" section: "Chris Henderson — rhythm guitar (1996-present)"

Which one is correct? Hannari (talk) 04:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

•	3 Doors Down celebrate the start of a new decade with three tracks in the Billboard Magazine’s ‘End of the Decade’ Mainstream Rock Chart! On top of the list at #1 is the NASA anthem “Kryptonite,” “When I’m Gone” comes in at #3, and “Loser,” from the band’s 6-million selling debut album, The Better Life, is on the chart at #6!

•	3 Doors Down received a Grammy in 2010 for their cover of “Presence of the Lord,” written by Eric Clapton from the Grammy award-winning Gospel album, Oh! Happy Day!

•	3 Doors Down were named VH1 Save The Music's 2008-2009 Ambassador along with Beyoncé, Jamie Foxx, Chris Webber, Gavin DeGraw, Ne-Yo, Johnny Rzeznik, Natasha Bedingfield, The Fray, Tamia, and Venus Williams.

•	3 Doors Down will host “VH1 Best Cruise Ever,” taking place April 15-19, 2010. The cruise, from Tampa, Florida to Grand Cayman on board the Carnival Inspiration, will include performances by Lifehouse, Shinedown, and special guests 7dayBinge, Carolina Liar, Finger Eleven, SAFETYSUIT and more.

•	3 Doors Down debut, 2000’s The Better Life, included the #1 singles “Kryptonite” and “Loser” and has been certified 6x platinum.

•	Their 2002 follow-up, Away From The Sun, sold more than 4 million albums, generated multiple #1 hits, and features Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson as producer on 3 songs for the record "Dangerous Game," "Dead Love," and "Wasted Me."

•	The band’s 2005 release, Seventeen Days, was their first to debut #1 on Billboard’s Top Albums chart and features Bob Seger singing a duet with lead singer, Brad Arnold, on the track "Landing in London."

•	The current album, 3 Doors Down, is their second studio album to debut at #1 (as well as their fourth album to reach the Top Ten), and includes the #1 Top 40 and #1 Mainstream Rock track “It’s Not My Time.”

•	“Let Me Be Myself,” the second single from 3 Doors Down, served as the theme song for two of GEICO’s new auto insurance commercials that aired nationally during the summer of 2009.

•	Reaching an inter-galactic audience on May 12, 2009, NASA played “Kryptonite” for shuttle Pilot Gregory Johnson as a 5am wakeup to begin Flight Day 2 for the astronauts of the Mission to Hubble.

•	In December 2009, 3 Doors Down released an 8-song EP, Where My Christmas Lives, which featured acoustic versions of tracks from their current release, including two versions (full band and acoustic) of a newly penned Christmas track, “Where My Christmas Lives.”

•	The band has been invited two years in a row by the Arizona Cardinals to perform at their halftime festivities as their personal lucky charm! In January 2009 they made their first appearance at University of Phoenix Stadium for the Cardinals Wild Card victory over the Atlanta Falcons and on January 10, 2010 they were there when the Cardinals claimed another NFC victory beating the Green Bay Packers!

•	On March 27, 2010, 3 Doors Down participated in Universal Orlando’s Mardi Gras 2010, 3-month long, weekly event joining other headliners including Sheryl Crow, Akon, Dierks Bentley and more to celebrate The Big Easy.

3 Doors Down have written original music for the Olympic Soundtrack and musical bed for on-air promos twice in recent years including "Shine" for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, Canada and “Champion In Me" for the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, China

•	3 Doors Down were recipients of the 2009 Mississippi Institute of Arts and Letters Award for Music Composition (Popular) for the album 3 Doors Down.

•	“Kryptonite” was featured on the debut version of Rock Band Unplugged (handheld version). “Kryptonite” is also available as a download for Rock Band.

•	The video for "Citizen/Soldier," a song written honoring America's National Guard, was filmed by acclaimed director, Antoine Fuqua, and shown nationally on 20,000 movie screens, throughout the 2007 and 2008 holiday season. The video has had over 6,000,000 views on YouTube.

•	In 2005, the community-minded band, chose to begin giving back to their beloved Mississippi by starting their own charity, The Better Life Foundation. Named after their first album, they had a goal in mind: To give as many children between Mobile and Biloxi, a chance at a better life. Since its inception TBLF has gone on to support numerous charities nationwide, as well as providing aid and assistance to the Gulf Coast region of Mississippi during Hurricane Katrina.

•	3 Doors Down and The Better Life Foundation host an annual fundraising event in Mississippi to raise money for the charity.

KimEstlund (talk) 20:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)Kim Estlund, September 7, 2010

Terrible article
This isn't an encyclopedic article. It's a blatant fan piece -- and a poorly written one at that. This article needs to be completely revamped. --Nonstopdrivel 19:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

i agree

-The "Early Years" section needs re-writing very badly. The bit about "The studio was owned by longtime local musician Kenny Crawford. After the band acheived stardom the promises made to Crawford were ignored or forgotten. Radio station 97.9 WCPR started playing the ep version of Kryptonite which was the #1 requested song on the station for over 15 weeks which caught the attention of Universal Records, who eventually signed the band." must have been written by Crawford himself or a 12-year-old. Hukt own fonikz (talk) 17:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Alternative?
I fail to see how this band fits an "alternative music" category. Doesn't alternative mean something other than mainstream? This band has been a mainstream act since first getting airplay. Most bands receiving airplay on commercial radio stations, since the 1990s, are mainstream acts.

I definitely agree. They are quite mainstream, and don't really show the traits of an   alternative music group, such as Smashing Pumpkins or Sigur Ros.


 * If music critics (who are deemed reliable sources) see it fit to put this band into the alternative music category, then they are part of alternative music. Wikipedia is based on Verifiability, so we go with whatever the critics say. (OF course if the critics say many different things, then they are part of a whole host of genres! ;) ) Copysan 00:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Alternative Music stopped being "alternative" almost 20 years ago. 21:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Bretticus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.243.141 (talk)

Links lead to all the wrong places
The link to Chris Henderson goes to the retired Seattle soccer player. It should link either to the correct Henderson or to the band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.60.100 (talk) 14:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok the links are realy messed up they lead to the completely wrong thing like the song kryptonite goes to the superman comics page and the link for when im gone leads to the Eminem song. SInce when did eminem have anyhting to do with 3 doors down

You're right, they do lead to the wrong places. That's dumb. Sherlock32 19:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Fixed. MSJapan 19:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Need to expand
This article needs to be expanded. For being such a successful band, their article lacks information concerning their formation, history, success, etc. Sherlock32 20:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, look at that I just expanded it myself! After a month of no one adding any info, I've decided to take matters into my own hands. There are indie bands that few have ever heard of before that have better articles with more info. I do not expect this article to be like the Led Zeppelin or Eagles articles, for those two bands are two of the greatest and most succesful bands in world history but still no one edits the page, or leaves comments. Sherlock32 00:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Sara Evans' Controversy
I have included facts from the latest news story that cited Sara Evans as having almost a dozen affairs including Richard Marx, Kenny Chesney, Tony Dovolani, and the members of the rock group Three Doors Down. This edit is in no way a defamation of character to Three Doors Down; it was just a newsworthy fact that needed to be added to the article. The edit was cited and linked appropriately. --Candy156sweet 18:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I reverted an edit, by Sherlock32, that removed the subject matter relevant to this topic. Removing the names of the parties pertaining to the divorce of Sara Evans, makes the topic seem vague. --Candy156sweet 02:21, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's not newsworthy, and neither is any of what is in the "Recent News" section. It is an allegation with no real proof, and anything regarding albums and songs should go in the main sections of the article.  In short, the section is wholly unneeded. MSJapan 04:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes it is newsworthy and should be left on the page where it belongs. There is nothing within the recent news section that was retrieved from tabloid publications.  This section is not defamatory, damaging, or frivolous in any way.  These are cited facts and should remain as content in this article.  --Candy156sweet 04:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The story appeared on one day in one paper over a month ago, and really has nothing to do with the band; it was allegations made without proof by Evans' ex-husband. The other material is fancruft - The new album can go into the article when it is released, and saying "they're in the studio" means nothing whatsoever.  Same with the songs, which belong on the page for the album they will appear on. None of those items are encyclopedic in the least. MSJapan 04:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you'll find that (a) I didn't create this section (b) I merely added to this section with relevant information pertaining to a fact presented to the media. If you are not in favor of this, then take the one fact that you feel is valid and reincorporate it into the article itself.  If you had incorporated it and posted about it, then I wouldn't have debated this with you in the first place.  This is not a pet article for me; I love editing many different musical articles.  Please don't bite for my misunderstanding your removal of content.   --Candy156sweet 05:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Recent News section
Responding to a thread left on my talkpage, I will offer a suggestion about this section. the "Recent News" section is laid out as trivia in the respect that it is a bullet pointed list of unrelated items. I'd say the first priority would to restructure the content there. I'd suggest reformatting the article into a ==History== header and then break up the current "band history" and "recent news" into more date driven sub headers (see Weezer for an example of what I'm talknig about). The stuff in recent news should be laid out in prose format and integrated into the article text. I removed the "cite" for the new album because it wasn't really a cite per se. This needs to be cited correctly (and beyond that I didn't see anything at all about a new album on their MySpace page). I also removed some weasel wording POV ("seemed like"... etc). As far as if this stuff is notable enough for the article, personally I'd say new album yes with a proper citation... new songs, only if it can be verified, Sarah Evans stuff, no (though if consensus is to keep that in I'd say the citations are adequate for it). That is simply my personal opinion though and as someone who really takes no interest in this band I'd say inclusion in this article is probably best determined by a WP:CONSENSUS discussion here. Hope that helps.--Isotope23 talk 12:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Citizen/Soldier and any other edits that refer to that single along with it's pending new CD (title unknown)
I've noticed that there are certain editors who take the initiative to make edits that aren't supported by proper citations. Edits that referred to the song and video Citizen/Soldier were rewritten by me and subsequently cited. There is no information or citation to support the edit that the newest CD is titled "National Guard." If this turns out to be an actual title of the disc, by all means revert my edit and cite the fact appropriately. Otherwise, this is just unsubstantiated editing that wastes everyone's time. --Candy156sweet 18:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC) The official 3 Doors Down website states that the album will be self-titled. So, that would you mean you were right. Wikimaster97 (talk) 01:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

No Picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.50.16.47 (talk) 03:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

==Music Video== The video titled Citizen/Soldier does exist and deserves to be part of this article. The information pertaining to this video is cited appropriately and I can't find a reason that it should be reverted. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thanks! --Candy156sweet 02:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Alternative metal? Huh?
I strongly disagree with the labelling of alternative metal being applied to 3 Doors Down, as I do not believe they are heavy enough. I've yet to come across a source describing them as such, either. I'm going to remove this, then if sources are provided it can be re-added. James25402 (talk) 14:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, there's only one source caling them that, allmusic, which is not a reliable source on what is or is not metal. Prophaniti (talk) 17:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

3 doors down play 300 SHOWS A YEAR? I think not!210.215.75.4 (talk) 23:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe that this genre of Alternative Metal should be reapplied to 3 Doors Down. I am basing this off the fact that currently, their most recent album is listed on Amazon.com as the #9 best-selling album in the Alternative Metal genre. Here are the 3 sales charts the album are currently listed on:


 * 1. Music > Hard Rock & Metal > Alternative Metal
 * 2. Music > Alternative Rock > American Alternative > Post Grunge
 * 3. Music > Alternative Rock > Alternative Styles


 * I'll plainly admit that I don't know who decides what charts a band is attached to, but if they are currently in the Top 10 for best-selling Alternative Metal albums on Amazon.com, shouldn't they be listed as Alternative Metal? DeGarmo2 (talk) 20:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Chart History
The Chart History isn't completely correct this needs to be changed.
 * Yeah, at least the German positions seem to be completely made up. I'm from Germany and just noticed that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.67.225 (talk) 13:16, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I updated the German positions now. It seems the other ones ain't that correct either, but this is too much work for me now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.92.231 (talk) 06:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Discography
Can someone remove the discography link so that a seperate discography article could be created? A band as successful as this should really have a seperate discography page.-KingdomHearts25 (talk) 23 March, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

they already have a greatest hits record.why does the article say their very first greatest hits record? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.0.130.114 (talk) 20:19, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Genre(s)
Until recently the list of genres for this band were: Alternative rock, Post-grunge, Southern rock, Hard rock, Alternative metal. I was wondering why the two last ones were removed.Richard.darren (talk) 15:40, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

The Better Life Foundation update for 2010
3 DOORS DOWN, THEORY OF A DEADMAN, SAVING ABEL will perform at the 7th Annual The Better Life Foundation Event at Horseshoe Tunica on November 13

the event is titles The Better Life Foundation Presents 3 Doors Down & Friends, the seventh annual concert and silent auction for their Mobile, AL-based charity, will take place at Horseshoe Casino & Hotel on Friday, November 12 and culminating with a live performance on Saturday, November 13. The 2-day event has moved location from Biloxi to Tunica and as a bonus for fans, is earlier than in years past. The event is sponsored by the Mississippi Army National Guard and includes a Charity Ride, Clay Shoot, Silent Auction and live performance of 3 Doors Down with special guests gold-certified Canadian rock band Theory Of A Deadman and gold-certified Mississippi rock act Saving Abel.

Since starting The Better Life Foundation in 2003, has donated almost $2 million to various charities nationwide including a focus on Gulf Coast organizations and last year raised more than $230,000. Past ‘friends’ who have joined 3 Doors Down for the annual event include Lynryd Skynyrd, Staind, Sara Evans, Tracy Lawrence, Shinedown, Hinder, Alter Bridge, James Otto, Big Kenny of Big and Rich, Aaron Lewis of Staind, Ed Kowalczyk of Live, and Switchfoot.

In 2003, the community-minded band chose to begin giving back to their beloved Mississippi by starting their own charity, The Better Life Foundation, a 501(c)(3) federally tax exempt non-profit organization. Named after their first album, they had a goal in mind: To give every child a chance at ‘The Better Life.’  Since its inception TBLF has gone on to support numerous charities nationwide, as well as providing aid and assistance to the Gulf Coast region of Mississippi during Hurricane Katrina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KimEstlund (talk • contribs) 22:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Brad Arnold
Brad Arnold (born in Mississippi 27 SEPTEMBER 1978) is the lead singer and founding member of American Rock Band 3 Doors Down.

Married Jennifer Sanderford (equestrian rider) at Ridglea Heights Baptist Church in Escatawpa, Mississippi on Saturday, September 12, 2009.

Brad has worked with/written songs with Bret Michaels, Chris Daughtry, Charlie Daniels, Kenny Loggins, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Kenny Alphin, Tracy Lawrence, Richard Marx, Sarah Evans, Marti Frederiksen, James House, Jeff Steele, Bob Seger, Alex Lifeson, David Campbell, Josh Freese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KimEstlund (talk • contribs) 22:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Matt Roberts
Matt Derrick Roberts (born Pascagoula, MS on January 10, 1978) is the guitarist for American rock band 3 Doors Down.

Matt has been the producer for Mississippi-based rock band Top of the Orange —Preceding unsigned comment added by KimEstlund (talk • contribs) 22:46, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Todd Harrell
Todd Harrell (ROBERT TODD HARRELL) (Mississippi, February 13, 1972) is the bass player for American rock band 3 Doors Down and the co-founder of Mississippi based Southern rock band 7 day Binge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KimEstlund (talk • contribs) 22:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Chris Henderson
Chris Henderson (Maryland, April 30, 1971) is the rhythm guitar player for american rock band 3 Doors Down.

Chris plays guitar, bass and drums and has worked with THE CAMPAIGN 1984,TRAVIS MITCHELL, PATRICK DRONEY, TREY BRUCE, MARTy FREDERIKSEN, STEPHANIE SMITH, ALICIA KATY, SHANNON NICOLE, KIERA LYNN FORD,HALF DOWN THOMAS, ALCHEMEY, INTER 61, BENJI DAVIS, CASTOR TORY, .38 SPECIAL, SHAWN GASAWAY, STEVEN COCHRAN, KEN BLOCK, ANDREW HOVER,CHRIS BOWLES, 5 BOLT MAIN, 7DAY BINGE, LOVE 45, ADAM SHIP, EVANS CAPPS, SWEEPIE WALKER, CHRIS LUZINGER, KOLO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KimEstlund (talk • contribs) 22:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Majority of Artists Pages Redirect
Why do the majority of the Artists pages redirect to this article? Past revisions show them having their own page, I have looked on the revisions however there is no explanation for it, why was that done? And should they be reverted? Noaru (talk) 07:07, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

"Battle Song"?
There've been many remenants of this song, and even once a thread on the official 3DD website forums. However, that was taken down and such.

It's a ballad that was unreleased from the self-titled album and I've seen it in two places. Both on two separate YouTube videos by NamerDef123DM. I understand that he once got to play with the band live, but almost a year before that - he had this song.

Umar Arar (NamerDef123DM) does a short cover of this song and then plays part of the actual digital recording on his "Runaway" cover.

Personally, I think it's a beautiful song from the little I've heard. Anybody know anything about this song? It exists, but is vague. If so, should it be noted in the article's Self Titled section?

Thanks, --StefanBashkir (talk) 17:33, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As it turns out, he received the song directly from 3 Doors Down. No way to get it anywhere. So this is a closed question. --StefanBashkir (talk) 19:22, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Guitars
I have Chet and Chris as both Lead and rhythm guitar because Lead guitarists play rhythm in parts of songs usually too and Chet plays the lead part for "Kryptonite". Zackmadd (talk) 18:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)