Talk:3rd Summit of the Americas

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20 000 people? I was there in 2001 and I think there were more than 50 000 people. 20 000 people was the number used by the corporate media and since this isn't a corporate site but rather more of a site similar to indymedia maybe we should use their numbers which were closer to 50 000. Fred- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.172.165 (talk) 08:57, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Nice job, Montrealais, but the Québec event was the third in a series of Summits: (and there's a special one coming up this January in Monterrey &ndash can hardly wait).
 * Miami (94) (when the FTAA idea was first taken on board)
 * Santiago (98)
 * Québec City (01)

Québec wasn't exclusively FTAA-related, either. None of them, really.

The homepage of the Summits process is here, if you fancy taking a look; broader context and all that.

– Hjr 05:22, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * If you would like to suggest a preferable title, please feel free to do so. Montréalais


 * Third Summit of the Americas? Summit of the Americas (Québec City)? 2001 Summit of the Americas? Any of those'd give us room to cover past and future ones,too. Hjr

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The Summit of th Americas is not that a fancy name for the General Assembly of the Organization of the American States, or it is a different instance?? Baloo rch 18:45, 24 Jan 2004 (PST)


 * No -- different animals. For instance, OAS General Assembly is only at foreign-minister level; the Summits are for heads of state/govt. GA is annual; Summits are every 3 or 4 years. The Summits are not exclusively OAS events either -- there are other organizations involved. Etc. HTH, as they say. – Hajor 19:34, 24 Jan 2004 (PST)

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 * I was reading this story and the following paragraph jumped out at me as a bit POV (especally the first sentance)...

"Although initially justified, the police response became indiscriminate. Teargas and other confrontation was used on non-violent protestors as well as citizens of the city uninvolved in the protest. Teargas was fired so near the green zone that unaware shoppers in the city were suddenly choking. Teargas was fired into at least one home, where a resident struggled to get his 6 month old to safety."

"Although initially justified, the police response became indiscriminate." says who? is this from Shirley Heafey? (the Robetson complaint mentioned further on...) or is it the impression of someone who was gassed? I think an attrabution for this comment could help clear this up.

does this warrent an NPOV tag? Mike McGregor (Can) 08:39, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

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 * This cought my eye too:

"Police responded to the protests by firing tear gas canisters, water cannon, and rubber bullets"

Rubber bullets have been largly phased out in favor of plastic baton rounds. everything I saw on the ground and all the rounds my friend brought back were PBRs. I'm going to take some time to look into this.Mike McGregor (Can) 04:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Evidence of police misconduct
The Fifth Estate did a piece about this, and had video footage of police using excessive force against the protestors (ie: One protestor was peacefully sitting in front of a police line-up, and was shot with rubber bullets several times without justification) Thus, the statement on the main article, that protestors had no evidence to back up their claim of police brutality, is invalid. I do not have a link to the video, but if anyone wants to look for it, they can find it on cbc.ca, just look up the show "the Fifth Estate". And do a search on the Quebec protests.

--- I was there and did my best to report the events as I saw them. The police and army ran out of tear gas., it's true. I put the story on Rabble. Best wish, Spanner McNeil. http://rabble.ca/babble/rabble-news-features/g-20-summit-toronto-and-tear-gas-summit-quebec-city — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.68.91 (talk) 16:53, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

--- I was in attendance covering this event for the our student paper The Link at Concordia University. This article is missing references about the police violence. I am unsure how to update the notes and add some references. /Frederick Edwards

From: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/may2001/queb-m02.shtml "Le Soleil has reported that bystander Eric Lafrenière was hit in the throat by a rubber bullet while watching a protest near the security perimeter. Lafrenière's larynx has been so seriously injured he may never be able to talk again. Another passerby, Richard Savignac, told La Presse that he was hit by a rubber bullet while taking a stroll with friends. NDP MP Svend Robinson was hit in the foot by a bullet while standing amid a crowd of 200 people peacefully demonstrating outside the security fence . In the same volley in which Robinson was hit, one protester's jaw was fractured and another's hand was broken."

From: http://www.labournet.net/world/0103/ftaa4.html "The Anti Riot Weapon Enfield, or Arwen 37, is described as “the first multi-purpose, multi-shot weapon system to combine lightweight, high accuracy and the ability to fire up to five shots before reloading” by its Canadian distributor, Police Ordnance Company." “If it hits someone in a rib, it is meant to crack a rib and put them in a lot of pain,” said Toronto police Constable Bob Leighton, who helps train the force’s Emergency Task Force.Weetigo (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Format
For some reason, I cannot see much of the end of this article, including the end of the last section, the external links, and the sources. Does anyone know why? This is copied from the edit this page but I cannot view it on the article:

A formal complaint regarding the RCMP's conduct was filed by New Democrat MP Svend Robinson with the Commission for Public Complaints against the RCMP. On November 13, 2003, the complaint's chairwoman Shirley Heafey found that "RCMP members used excessive and unjustified force in releasing tear gas to move the protesters when a more measured response could have been attempted first." The commission recommended improved crowd-control techniques, disciplinary action against certain officers, and a formal apology to protesters.

Redundant information?
At some point, the list of the summits in the Overview section will be considered redundant. There is a navbox at the bottom of the page; and it presents similar data in an abbreviated format. --Tenmei (talk) 18:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

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