Talk:40–40 club

Doubles and homers
The discussion of 50-50 (HR/2B) belongs somewhere else. It's hardly related to 40-40 (HR/SB). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.147.139.184 (talk) 21:58, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Another rare 40-40 in baseball - 40 homers and 40 doubles. One of these days I am going to make a list of those seasons. Albert Belle had a 50-50 season sometime in the 1990's...

Ellsworth 21:20, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I am pretty sure you are referring to Belle's historic 50 homeruns and 50 doubles season in 1995? Nick81aku 21:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's it. It was 52 homers and 50 doubles, actually. Ellsworth 23:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, to begin:

Willie Stargell, 1973. Lou Gehrig, 1927, 1930 and 1934. Babe Ruth, 1921 and 1923 Hank Greenberg, 1937 and 1940 Frank Thomas (baseball player), 2000

Also impressive is the list of players who didn't do it. Just a few:

Hank Aaron Jimmie Foxx Mickey Mantle Willie Mays Mel Ott Ted Williams Hack Wilson Jim Thome as of 2005


 * Here's a full list (40 doubles / 40 HR) - 32 times by 23 different players: Bagwell (1997), Belle (1995, 1998), Burks (1996), Delgado (2000), Gehrig (1927, 1930, 1934), J. Gonzalez (1998), Greenberg (1937, 1940), Green (1999), Helton (2000, 2001), Hidalgo (2000), Hornsby (1922), Jones (1999), Klein (1929, 1930), D. Lee (2005), Ortiz (2004, 2005), Pujols (2003, 2004), M. Ramirez (2004), Ruth (1921, 1923), Stargell (1973), Teixeira (2005), Thomas (2000), Trosky (1936), and Walker (1997). Dsreyn 18:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Interesting - did not know it had become that much more common in recent years. So from 1922-1940 it was done 11 times by 6 players, from 1941-1994 it was done once (by Willie), and from 1995-present it's been done 20 more times. Ellsworth 00:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Steroids
I might add that 3 of these 4 players have admitted to steroid use. Given the significance of the 40/40 club, it is noteworthy that only one can do it without steroids - that should be pointed out. (Although Bonds did it back with Pittsburgh.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.66.180 (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously, looking at the recent ramp-up in both types of 40-40 accomplishments, there have been significant changes in the game over just the past 20 years, whether you ascribe it to steroids or whatever else. Ellsworth (talk) 02:58, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Performance-enhancing drugs affect all baseball stats, but they can be discussed in articles specific to PED or relevant players.  PED need not be mentioned in each and every of the dozens of articles that describe various stats.  DwaynefromME (talk) 07:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Reverting probable vandalism
Two anonymous users changed Although Bonds only made the 40-40 club once, he has had five 30-30 seasons, his longevity... to Although Bonds only made the 40-40 club once, he has had five 30-30 seasons, his possible steroid usage... without providing citations. Without citations, this is vandalism. The spirit of WP:BLP applies. I reverted it. If the same or any other editor restores it with citations then it should stand.

possible error? isn't jay-z's 40/40 club in atlantic city, nj? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.101.36 (talk) 17:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Ballpark sizes
I just did a back of the envelope calculation of ballpark sizes for dead and living ballparks, and found only a 4 ft difference in average fence length, including living ballparks actually being 10 feet longer at their shortest point than dead ballparks. Dead ballparks were about 15 feet longer on average at their maximum point than living ballparks, and this includes outliers such as the Polo Grounds or Tiger Stadium which were enormous parks. Is it really accurate to say that stadiums are smaller than they used to be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.38.15.21 (talk) 01:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Table formatting
Does anyone know how to increase the width of the column with the names of the members of the club so that the "Jr." in Acuña's name doesn't go to the next line? SS451 (talk) 23:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)