Talk:420 (Family Guy)

Cultural references
Please add the proper sources for the following, and please do not put it in list form. Thank you. Sarujo (talk) 14:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Quagmire and his cat watch the logo of MTM Enterprises on his TV.


 * Peter watches clips from the movies A Clear and Present Danger, As Good As It Gets, Superman IV: The Quest For Peace in which the actors mention the movie's name during their lines.


 * Carter Pewterschmidt sings his own version of Walk Like an Egyptian, a song from the band The Bangles.


 * Stewie mentions a disliking of Ben Stein. During his song, Stewie also mentions the supposed child abusing of Michael Jackson.


 * During the song, a blind Hellen Keller is tripped by Stewie.


 * During the song (at circa 13.05) Groucho Marx is shown.


 * During the song, Brian mentions a quote of H.L. Mencken that the common man is a fool.


 * A doped up Peter Griffin claims not to like the following celebrities: Stephen Dorf, Justin Timberlake, Dane Cook, Chris O'Donnell, Geoffrey Chaucer, Kathy Griffin, Andy Samberg, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Andrew McCarthy, Rita Coolidge, David Arquette, Carlos Mencia, Amy Winehouse, Ethan Hawke, Dax Shepard, Toby Keith, Joe Francis, Princess Diana, Chris Martin and his parents and ancestors, Eve Plumb, Bonnie Franklin, Kate Beckinsale, Freddie Prinze Jr., Suri Cruise, Garry Marshall, Paul Tsongas, every rapper


 * Peter plans on using a parodie of Adolf Hitler's speech to exterminate all Jews. However, they can't do that because Carter gets a call from Fox News that they own the rights of Hitler's likeliness and won't have him slambered.


 * There may be a referance to Orson Welles' advertising for Norwegian fish. Peter is advertising for White Castle Burgers, but talks about how pointless it is to use dope, as if it was pointless to do the advert. Orson Welles made an advert for Norwegian fish, but started to complain of how lengthy it was for taking 30 seconds of his time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.108.31.250 (talk) 00:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * To persuade Brian, Carter tries to give him a night out with Oprah Winfrey.
 * The theme that Peter is humming as a Siren is from The Rockford Files —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.176.87.44 (talk) 00:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As a mermaid, Peter looks like Ariel (The Little Mermaid). P. S. Burton (talk) 22:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * There's a reference to harold and kumar go to white castle-- Juan Gamboa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.244.111.195 (talk) 04:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Good status?
Wondering what it would take to get this article up to Good status. Looking at other Good Family Guy articles, it appears the addition of the 'Cultural references' section with proper sources (see above) and a 'Production' section are needed. With the addition of those, and perhaps a bit of expansion in the 'Ratings and reception' section, this article should be able to obtain Good status. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how much production information you are going to get, since the episode isn't on DVD yet.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 20:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahh, ok. Any idea when Season 7 might be coming out? Family Guy DVDs just says 2010. Had to ask. Thanks! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:34, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No idea, the latest DVD just came out a few weeks ago, so I'm guessing several months.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 04:13, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

UK controversy
Twice now, edits have been made regarding the re-airing of this episode and its delay due to the death of Michael Jackson. I do feel this could be relevant, but is there a reliable, third-party source that discusses this? If not, I don't think it should be included in the article. Any thoughts? -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Why is it relevant to add a UK delay in airing for an American show?  C T J F 8 3 Talk 19:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that's what I am questioning. With edits being made to the article, clearly some people find this to be importance. However, I cannot find any reliable sources mentioning the delay, so I am not certain it is notable. However, should reliable sources exist, it might be worth noting simply because it is an event directly relating to this specific episode. If consensus concludes that delaying an episode due to a joke presented within the episode (relating to the death of a major celebrity) is not notable, then I certainly respect that and would not be bothered by not including the "controversy". Just thought I would bring it up since the article currently mentions it, even though there is no source for the information. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is notable, unless the American premiere of the episode was delayed. The last two mentions of the UK delay were added by IPs. I say remove it unless there is notability and a consensus to keep a sourced statement on the delay.  C T J F 8 3 Talk 21:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Without a reliable source, its not article content. Depending on the source, and content of the source, I could easily be convinced to include it. -- The Red Pen of Doom  23:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, unsourced, I'm removing it. Another Believer beat me to it  C T J F 8 3 Talk 05:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And I couldn't find a reliable source discussing the issue, so I don't think the "controversy" is notable. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 06:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

GA nomination
The notification is above. Please take your time to review. Railer-man (talk) 16:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

New nomination
The notification is above. Please take your time to review. Railer-man (talk) 16:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

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Toking man and his anti-weed dog
The article doesn't mention this bit; the crudely animated insert in which the man and his dog discuss weed (the conversation presented in written form rather than being spoken). Presumably this is a reference to something. If so, what? Martyn Smith (talk) 08:14, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Done a bit of research and have added a relevant comment within the article Martyn Smith (talk) 09:42, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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Requested move 31 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move to "420 (Family Guy)"  buidhe 23:20, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Episode 420 (Family Guy) → Episode 420 – "Episode 420" already redirects straight here, it's pointless to have the page's title specificity the series. Grapesoda22 (talk) 21:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC) Grapesoda22 (talk) 21:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 20:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per the nominator's rationale. Aoba47 (talk) 23:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Though, if you'll forgive the musing... Wasn't this one just called "420"? I guess the DVD says "Episode 420", but the press release, IGN, and BBC seem to drop it. So, perhaps the WP:COMMONNAME is in question here. Nohomersryan (talk) 00:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:05, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Move to 420 (Family Guy): although the DVD says "Episode 420", "420" seems to be the name of the episode most commonly used on various distribution and on-demand platforms (e.g. BBC iPlayer, Apple TV/iTunes), on the press release, on most reviews, and on IMDB. Sceptre (talk) 01:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisting comment: Do the previous participants have any thoughts on Sceptre's proposal? --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 20:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah I agree with it per what I said in my own comment, it seems "420" is more common. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with Sceptre's suggestion since it seems to be more common. Aoba47 (talk) 20:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I would argue that "Episode 420" is more common. It actually is listed as "Episode 420" on iTunes, and Hulu and IMDB listings aren't generally accepted as sources of information on Wikipedia. I would say that the official studio-sanctioned DVD would be the most accurate source in this context. I would not be opposed to having this discussion closed in favor of debate of "Episode 420" vs. "420". Grapesoda22 (talk) 04:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with it.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment – "Episode 420" is definitely an ambiguous title, as there are multiple series that have run 420 or more episodes (e.g. see List of longest-running scripted U.S. primetime television series for starters, and that doesn't cover daytime soaps, or long-running TV shows outside the U.S.), so oppose the current proposal (indeed, I would advocate deleting Episode 420 at WP:RfD). That said, I think Sceptre's alternative proposal has merit. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose Episode 420 but Support 420 (Family Guy), but leave it where it is if absolutely necessary. Episode 420 is overly ambiguous per IJBall. Despite there only being one Wikipedia article, you could effectively have a disambiguation page pointing to any number of episodes, being either the 420th episode of something or season 4, episode 20 of something. I don't think that's a worthwhile use of anyone's time, though. Regarding "Episode 420" being "the official studio-sanctioned" title, that may be on the DVD, but FOX themselves were inconsistent.  This was their own official episode recap site at one point: 420, and others have already pointed out the initial press release.  This is WP:SYNTH, but my guess is that "420" was the original title, and then they thought "Episode 420" would be less controversial, maybe even specifically for DVD release.  Looking at TVGuide archives, it looks like "Episode 420" only started seeing use sometime after 2015 and before 2017. Seems to make sense with contemporary reviews/articles/etc. using "420" per the citations in the article. Regarding what purchase/streaming options say, it looks like things are split, but I see far more "420"s.  Despite "Episode 420" at iTunes and Hulu listings, all these providers (Amazon,  Vudu, YouTube, Fandango, Google Play, and Microsoft Store) only list "420". I would second IJBall in sending Episode 420 to RfD. -2pou (talk) 00:18, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

"Episode 420" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Episode 420. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 21 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:57, 21 June 2020 (UTC)