Talk:50 Cent/Archive 1

Assessment comment
Substituted at 04:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

OK What does it take to make an article?
Alright, I am now force to look at this as a joke! This is suppose to be an encylopedia! I am seeing too much opinion, uncited information, and rhetroic in this article as well as the 50 Cent, Game, and G-Unit articles.

I guess we'll never know! We'll keep adding nonsense, vandalism, opinion, unconfirmed facts, uncited sources, etc.. The whole bang! Now it's time to be serious! If you believe this article needs to be edited and cleaned up seriously, then place your comments below and support! Cause I am getting tired of fighting this battle with this! talk to LILVOKA


 * For those who felt that this article is awful and want change it to fit the encyclopedia standards place comments below!


 * For those who believe that it fits the encyclopedia standards and like the way it is place comments below!

Disputed record sales
The introduction says " who rose to fame following the success of his 2003 debut album Get Rich or Die Tryin' which sold over 2 million copies in the first four days of its release."

Later in the article it says " In its first week of release, 50's major label debut "Get Rich Or Die Tryin'" sold 872,000 units..."

Which one is correct?


 * No album has ever sold 2 million copies in four days, the latter is probably correct.--Fallout boy 20:00, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Ignore Your Personal Feelings
You may hate 50 Cent with a passion, but when constructing an encyclopedia you can't go around adding hints of sarcasm to the text. Yeah, Interscope bragged about him being the "real deal" and he boasted about doing a "3 to 9" but what marketing person worth their salt hasn't talked up their product. Hell, 50's no different from the Bluesman Robert Johnson who went around bragging to everyone how he sold his soul to the devil at the crossroads. Little snide, side comments should be taken out. If I have time I'll start going through this. Richard Corey 18:41, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

"50 Cent is the Future was heard by a slightly impressed Eminem..." <--- Oh, c'mon! hahahaRichard Corey 18:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

OK what's his political beliefs got to do with this article?
You know what, I don't care about 50 Cent's support of anyone! I mean does it have to take a user on WIKIPEDIA to try to bias the article by this form of painting the rapper as a "SNITCH"! Ok, first things first, "ALL RAPPERS ARE SNITCHES!" There is no way I'm going to believe any entertainer who keeps it real while riding in their hard earn Bentley! Rap critics seem to forget, most rappers would vote for the GOP if the DNC tries to use one of their represenatives to terrorize rap music! C'mon, remember Joe Lieberman and Tipper Gore's war on rap music may of cost Al Gore some votes. I mean I am under the blue radar but for someone to put the politics in there is not being fair to the viUseews of the rapper. I don't care, as long as he makes good music, and put albums out, then I'll buy the album. I will take the time not to edit this article but I will watch this page. LILVOKA.Akonyeah i think 50cents the best and the other tryin to hate on him. :(

This Beef With Dr. Dre
It seems like the bulletproof vest won't come off anytime soon. As many of you fans heard, 50 Cent may start beefing with Dr. Dre. It all may end up being either a publicity stunt or the real thing. But in turn, it might bite him back. I mean have some thinking here: 50 Cent vs. The Game- A two week beef that ends at the New York Ballroom, thus become a truce. Then another feud whereas a rat is getting beat down, pictures of strippers, and denouncing street cred, it's soap opera 101. The Game and 50 Cent have egos and believe that any friend of a enemy is an enemy of mine. I heard that they may drop either one off Interscope if they don't put the brakes on this feud. I ride with Em on what goes, and especially Dre on what goes! If 50 Cent want to get off Aftermath, let him! If he want to get off Shady, let him! If he want to go back to the bottom of the barrel, let him! Tell me what you think about it.- LILVOKA.
 * Yeah, and the WWE features REAL FIGHTS! AWESOME!216.184.122.12
 * Basically the Game still makes some money for Aftermath and G-Unit, if he stops doing that he's out, one of the reasons why Dre's album is not dropping yet. The Game struggles to gain some of Kanye West's audience, by tattooing a lovely butterfly on his cheek, with various success. Also it's not like 50 cent will start beefing, it's more like if Dre would change his mind and really would start supporting The Game again, by making his second album he (Dr. Dre) would start the beefing. Not like that will happen any time. ShotokanTuning 09:41, 24 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Here are some of the reasons why 50 Cent find beef with Dr. Dre (and possibly Eminem alongside Aftermath): This is ridiculous!


 * The Game is still signed as an artist to Aftermath.
 * 50 Cent willing to go after them all within his own label.
 * The albums are still successful, so we the fans fuel the beef.
 * Busta Rhymes, Eve, Stat Quo, and Eminem often worked or associated with rappers ie., Jadakiss, Nas, and Fat Joe. And not to mention, Ja Rule.
 * Eminem has produced tracks for Jadakiss, Fat Joe and Nas.
 * Eve is good with D-Block.
 * The feud is pushing Busta Rhymes long awaited album further back forcing the rapper to go after 50 Cent and The Game. Not something 50 and Game want when messing with Busta.
 * A publicity stunt after a failed album. Sure Massacre sold 4 million. But after GRODT which sold 10 million, it pays to wait to be patient on getting Dre's attention.
 * 50 Cent is trying to establish notable acts who recently flop their albums, Mase, Mobb Deep, M.O.P., Olivia, without the consideration of Dre or Em.
 * Too much time is wasted on this beef, (the fans) need to let this one fade like the battles against Benzino, Ja Rule, and others. This is one of them examples of how much one can take when it comes to beef. Mark this day, October 30, 2005, three years to the day Jam Master Jay died and hip-hop died that day too!---LILVOKA.
 * It's like I told U, The Game fans try 2 blow up a thing that ain't there. Yes there will be a G-Unit go 4 itself thing happening eventually, they are getting way too big to be a side project, almost every great artist makes his own record label. All this thing is based on what 50 said, like if Dre would make a real 2nd album for The Game that's when 50 would feel Dre would purposely try 2 go against 50, that would be not staying neutral but taking a side. 50 said that would be like starting a beef against him. And that he felt Dr. Dre did not handle The Game in the best way possible. Nothing more nothing less, end of story. Also Dr. Dre just worked on the Get Rich Or Die Tryin' movie Soundtrack. If you claim there is more, just give a reliable source. Thank you for your cooperation. ShotokanTuning 07:14, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

uh...this isn't a message board folks. and besides 50 and Dre aren't beefing, neither of them are that stupid...Richard Corey 18:15, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

AAVE
I think we should leave in the reference to African American Vernacular English. It plays an important role in rap culture. AAVE is a genuine dialect of the English language, so there's no point trying to argue that it doesn't exist. In response to User:Hottentot, "AAVE" is not a "street" term, but technical terminology for the dialect prominent in US urban rap culture.
 * No, you're wrong. It's just slang. --Hottentot


 * I can assure you, Hottentot, it's not slang, it's pronunciation. The term "slang" refers to alternate words, like saying "gat" instead of "gun" (to borrow from urban slang), and not to pronunciation. "Fiddy" is not an alternate word, it is simply the way "fifty" is phonetically realised (pronounced) in AAVE. Furthermore, "slang" crosses borders between variations of English, but "Fiddy" is only ever used in AAVE. It needs a contextual reference. I don't want to blow my own trumpet, but I know what I'm talking about - I hold one of the UK's top qualifications in English Language. "Fiddy" is not slang, it is a way of pronouncing "fifty", and we should leave in the link to AAVE to provide context. Why is Hottentot getting so upset about providing context? Rusty2005 18:39, 16 July 2005 (UTC)


 * By the way Hottentot, I see from your talk page that you've already been in trouble with Wikipedia, many times, for blanket-reverting articles without discussing it first. It's pretty rude to just keep changing the 50 Cent article while simply telling everyone else that they're "wrong". If you really don't think we should keep AAVE in, maybe you should stop insulting us and give an actual reason why. Rusty2005 18:57, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

For Christ's sake, do not put that AAVE reference back up there. It's offensive. --FuriousFreddy 04:12, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

hahahaha, yeah, sorry Rusty. Since you're British and just don't know, we'll give you a pass. But African-Americans historically have not taken kindly to the "ebonics" theory. I have to agree, it's offensive. Richard Corey 18:18, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Will people stop pointlessly vandalising this page? 50 Cent isn't to everyone's taste, but how would you like it if 50 Cent fans scrawled pointless, childish messages on the pages of artists who you like? If you don't like 50 Cent, then don't visit the page in the first place! Rusty2005 00:19, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

''What did we say about vandalism?? Have some people got nothing better to do with their lives than aimlessly trash this page? It's pathetic.'' Rusty2005 14:41, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

They keep doing it... 200.42.205.113 03:14, 20 October 2005 (UTC)Ivand Olivero

' ' Shezzzzz..... Thats what u get when u dont use a user based posting system. WE NEED to know who is sending this junk.

Noteworthiness
Quoting the second paragraph of the Disputes and controversy section:
 * 50 Cent also has rivalry with former allies Shyne, Jadakiss, Nas, and Fat Joe. He claimed that Nas had made disparaging comments about him and his G-Unit camp while performing at a New York concert. The rapper has denounced Nas as a traitor over the alleged signing to the Murder Inc. label. 50 Cent points out that Jadakiss and Fat Joe were notorious for allowing themselves to partner up with Ja Rule while filming a video in which the rapper took shots at him. He recorded the "Piggybank" attack directly at Jadakiss and Fat Joe for their association with Ja Rule. Also, jailed rapper Shyne was named as an enemy to 50 Cent. Shyne had Irv Gotti and Ja Rule produce his album, and 50 Cent decided to embarrass him also for association. 50 Cent has also had a long-standing dispute with former proteges Bang 'Em Smurf and Domination over internal conflicts.

Is this really worthy of encyclopedic inclusion? Who cares? Neurophyre 05:52, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

date of birth
This page currently list two different years of birth (1975 and 1976). Since both can't be right, could someone knowledgable about this subject check the whole article for correctness. Maximus Rex 00:25, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I've slapped a on the page until someone trustworthy looks at it. Maximus Rex 00:54, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)


 * http://www.allmusic.com/ and http://www.imdb.com/ both say 1976. Not only does the arrest record have a different year, it's completely unauthenticated - and the only Google hits are Wikipedia and its content clients.  In the absence of any provenance, it should probably be deleted. Salsa Shark 00:57, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * IMDB now says 1975. I've changed the article. -DDerby- (talk) 19:10, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

arrest record

 * http://www.allmusic.com/ and http://www.imdb.com/ both say 1976. Not only does the arrest record have a different year, it's completely unauthenticated - and the only Google hits are Wikipedia and its content clients.  In the absence of any provenance, it should probably be deleted. Salsa Shark 00:57, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)


 * I removed it. I can't even understand it.  There's apparently a conviction for criminal possession of a controlled substance in the third degree, but I'm pretty sure he's been convicted more than that.  In any case, most of the information here is not encyclopedic (does anybody really care about the date of his parole hearing?) and that which is should be done in some easy to read format (e.g. date of arrest, date of conviction, crime) Tuf-Kat 01:27, Jan 7, 2004 (UTC)

provenance

 * I posted the arrest record, it is real, you may check it for yourself live from the New York State Department of Corrects web site at http://nysdocslookup.docs.state.ny.us. In regards to his birth year, I would believe the state department of corrects rather than some web site, 99% of the time with music artists, one site (usually MTV) will write up his biography, and then every other site will simply take the birth information from there.  The department of corrections on the other hand has his actual information, usually physical copies (birth certificate, social security card, etc), they need it for actual processing of the inmate, not simply to write up a biography for someone.  I don't know about All Music Guide, but IMDB is user edited, so that is not a credible source at all.  You guys can argue which one to believe/keep though, the reason I kept it was because it shows how incorrect information is passed along from site to site like a virus almost.  On a side note, The Smoking Gun has posted his mugshot which you can see at http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/50centmug1.html which also contains his DIN#, name, etc just incase you want to make sure thats the correct "Curtis Jackson", or just want to see his mugshot.  The reason there is only 1 charge listed is because that is the only charge he went to prison for.  If he has other charges which he only went to jail for, or not even, just probation and stuff, that would not be listed because the department of corrections simply doesn't handle those cases, thats handled by local departments/courts.  However if you want to look at incorrect information look at the bottom of the article, like the "...the crime rate in Jamaica Queens increased 170% around this time..." statement.  This is simply false information, the crime rate in Jamaica, Queens actually decreased, -9.19% since last year, -19.63% since 2 years ago, -69.81% since 10 years ago.  You can verify this information directly from the NYPD by looking at the 103rd precinct's CompStat report at (PDF) http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/pdf/chfdept/cs103pct.pdf.  In regards to "...most of the information here is not encyclopedic (does anyone really care about the date of his parole hearing?)...", it is encyclopedic in my opinion, for example, an encyclopedia having information on the US Constitution will most likely also post a copy of the Constitution.  I will restore the arrest record, if you read this, verify its real, and then still think it should be removed, by all means go right ahead, I personally will not restore it again in this event.  I will leave the information I disagree with (the 170% crime rate increase) and will let you guys decide (after reading precincts crime stats) if it should stay or not.  Thank you. 24.191.99.157 20:38, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)


 * I dunno about the crime statistics, but I have removed it pending verification. I don't know what it has to do with Jam Master Jay or Ja Ruleanyway -- I suppose there may very well be a connection, if the statistic is true, but it should be explicitly stated.  The article now explains his conviction on the drug charge.  Anything else in the arrest record that someone wants to incorporate can be re-added, but virtually all of it is not encyclopedic. I can't even gleam how long he served from it. Tuf-Kat 21:25, Jan 8, 2004 (UTC)

more detail

 * I work in law enforcement, so maybe me thinking it is easy to read is bias, but anyways to calculate how much time he served you take "Date Recieved", which is in this case "08/23/1994", then take "Latest Released Date/Type", which is "03/30/95", to the "PAROLE DIV OF PAROLEW" (aka he was released on parole), subtract the 2 dates, gives you 219 days, or about 7 months. In regards to verifying the crime rate rising 170% I already stated where you can verify that it incorrect/false information, http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/pdf/chfdept/cs103pct.pdf.  That is coming from the NYPD directly.  Thank you. 24.191.99.157 23:01, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)


 * Oh also if you want to make your statement more accurate in the entry you should change "... served jail time." He actually was in a shock incarceration program, which is a combination of drug rehab and boot camp.  To verify this first look at his record under "Housing/Releasing Facility" which says "MONTEREY", then go to http://www.docs.state.ny.us/faclist.html and scroll down to Monterey and you will see its listed as a "Shock Incarceration Corr. Fac."  Thank you. 24.191.99.157 23:15, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Murder inc., Ja Rule, etc.
He has had beef with Murder Inc, moreso with Ja Rule, which escalated when Jam Master Jay was killed and during the summer of 2003, the crime rate in Jamaica Queens increased 170% around this time, when Murder Inc member D.O. Cannon was killed as well as 2 members of the G Unit street gang and another member of the Murder Inc street gang all in Jamaica Queens.

50 Cent's Arrest Record: (text of)
DIN (Dept. Identif. Number) 94R6378 Inmate Name: JACKSON, CURTIS Sex: MALE Date of Birth: 07/06/1975 Race/Ethnicity: BLACK Custody Status: RELEASED Housing/Releasing Facility: MONTEREY Date Received (Original): 08/23/1994 Date Received (Current): 08/23/1994 Admission Type: County of Commitment: QUEENS Latest Release Date/Type: (Released Inmates Only) 03/30/95    PAROLE DIV OF PAROLE Crime 1, Description: CRIM POSS CONTR SUBSTANCE 3RD Crime 1, Crime Class: B    Crime 2, Description: Crime 2, Crime Class: Crime 3, Description: Crime 3, Crime Class: Crime 4, Description: Crime 4, Crime Class: If all 4 crime fields contain data, there may be additional crimes not shown here. In this case, the crimes shown here are those with the longest sentences. Aggregate Minimum Sentence: 003  Years, 00  Months, 00  Days Aggregate Maximum Sentence: 009  Years, 00  Months, 00  Days Earliest Release Date: Under certain circumstances, an inmate may be released prior to serving his or her minimum term and before the earliest release date shown for the inmate. Earliest Release Type: Parole Hearing Date: 09/1995 Parole Hearing Type: APPROVED OPEN DATE/6 MO AFT INIT APPEAR Parole Eligibility Date: 07/16/1997 Conditional Release Date: 07/16/2000 Maximum Expiration Date: 07/16/2003 Maximum Expiration Date for Parole Supervision: Post Release Supervision Maximum Expiration Date: Parole Board Discharge Date: 01/22/2001

subtle vandalism
removed this link.


 * 50 Cent's Philosophy

I'm no Fiddy-cent expert, but it doesn't seem right to me.Pedant 16:29, 2004 Oct 25 (UTC)

Every time you search wanksta, 50 Cent comes up. Whoever did this thought it would be funny because he has a song called this and he's often ridiculed for being fake. This probably should be fixed, though.

Moved from top
This page is nothing but promotion for an already overproduced artist. Can the editors of Wikipedia explain again why teeny-bopper musicians like 50 Cent and Britney Spears deserve such large articles? -- Chaz
 * All Wikipedia articles are written by volunteers. If you feel these articles should be deleted, you may nominate them for deletion.  I can, however, assure you that the nomination would fail because they do not meet any of the standards of What Wikipedia is not. Tuf-Kat 02:25, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see that. It also says "Wikipedia authors should strive to write articles that will not quickly become obsolete". That's pretty straightforward, wouldn't you say? 50 Cent is a manufactured pop-artist with no talent and no significance. A year from now he'll be about as popular as MC Hammer. -- Chaz

In reference to the comment from Chaz: "50 Cent is a manufactured pop-artist with no talent and no significance. A year from now he'll be about as popular as MC Hammer." - How can you judge someone else's talent and success, considering your failure to mention that you have something of your own that can be qualified as successful and "significant" accomplishments? Are you a rap artist? And if so, where are your multi-platinum hits? Surely there is some significance in that! And if you feel this way then why bother visiting this page in the first place? Stick to what you like and don't waste space with your negativity in the discussion board. - ellie


 * I don't see that sentence on the page (I could've sworn there was something to that effect, but don't see it now). In any case, I agree with everything else you say. Tuf-Kat 01:40, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)


 * Surely the purpose of Wikipedia is to provide as much information as possible on as many subjects as can be imagined, in which case an article on 50 Cent is just as valid as any other article. These complaints against 50 Cent's entry seem to stem from people who simply do not like him, not people who have legitimate criticisms of the style of this article. The answer is really very simple - if you don't like 50 Cent, don't listen to his music, and don't read this page. The 50 Cent fans on here don't criticise or vandalise pages on jazz musicians or rock stars, we simply don't read them. So why bother criticising this page? In reply to the comment that 50 Cent has "no talent and no significance", please acknowledge the fact the he has been one of the biggest-selling artists of the early 2000's. Your belief that he has no talent is only your opinion, not fact. I can guarantee that you enjoy at least one musician which hip-hop fans would find "talentless". Anyway, this isn't a page for people to squabble over their music tastes, it's for discussion of legitimate Wikipedia-related matters. If you really don't like 50 Cent that much, then go to the page of an artist who you do like.   --User:Rusty2005

G-Unit
This page seems not to mention G-Unit at all, which I, though no fitdy (i think this spelling is more accurate to how they really say it) cent expert, thought was an important part of his career.

Why is he called "50 Cent?"
The name was take from a notorious drug dealer from queens NY, named 50 cent.

Ugh... needs some work
This article is full of weasel words, weasel phrases, POV, etc. I cleaned up a bit (the first half of the article or so), but it really needs a thorough going-through. The tone of it is a bit chatty as well. CryptoDerk 20:49, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. I'd like to go through and fix a lot more of this article but some parts of it are hopelessly out of date while others are likely to be soon. Some phrases like "having beef" seem overly conversational and would also be unfamiliar to people living outside the US. Also, the info about his lyrics being banned from an advert in the UK is uncited, and I (a UK resident) have never heard of it. That's not to say that it's false, but it would be nice to confirm it if it's true. Agentsoo 01:34, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Agentsoo, the Reebok commercial ban had to do with supposed "violent imagery" evoked by the police chatter played in the background with a voice-over by 50 Cent in which he counts to nine in clear reference to his injuries. If you haven't seen the commercial, I'm sure you'll run across it somewhere on the internet, as I did.

Anyway, I've done a global edit that won't upset anyone too much. I went through and cleaned up the language -- and, sometimes, the organization -- of the entire entry. This involved eliminating redundant (or irrelevant) information, rephrasing slang into standard English and generally giving the text a polish. Some subcategories were recombined into others, but the work remains. I'm sure someone's favorite sentence got the axe (or a trim), for which I'm sorry. I'd like to think I just spent an hour doing more good than harm. James

Vernacular English
I think that the "vernacular english" reference needs to be removed. It sounds silly, hurts Wikipedia's credibility, and just isn't true. It's just slang. Simple.
 * I agree. To the people that keep on adding the reference please stop. It just sounds ridiculously stupid. --Hottentot

Well I disagree - African American Vernacular English is a legitimate dialect and is included here to provide a context for the realisation of as. It's not harming the page to add in four words is it? It's only helping to establish context. Why is User:Hottentot getting so upset about using the phrase? It's technical terminology. Are we to remove all technical terminology from Wikipedia? Of course not! And don't tell me not to edit the page. Rusty2005 18:22, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

It's just slang though. No one needs that context to believe it – in fact, the claim comes across as more legitimate without the "vernacular English" reference. It does harm the page because it sounds silly and unprofessional.


 * It is not "slang", it is pronunciation. There's a difference. Read what I wrote under AAVE at the top of this page. And it's not "unprofessional". Calling it "Ebonics" is unprofessional, but putting in a link to an established linguistic variation, using the correct technical terminology, is not. I've been looking at some of your more recent edits - they don't seem very professional themselves. So much so they've been reverted by other users.

- It's very unproffessional. When I say "fiddy" when I am reffering to 50 Cent, I'm not suddenly speaking in AAVE. It is just slang. "Fiddy" is pop nickname for 50 Cent. That's it. If I always spoke AAVE and reffered to "fiddy" as in 50 cent, than it is AAVE. But then why not refer to every dialect's "50 Cent" pronouncation in this article!!! Why not every language!!! What you are proposing sounds so misguided - things like this are prime examples of what hurts Wikipedia's credibility and why it gets made fun of. I'll stop changing it the way it should be soon because I have better things to do, but it's sad - 50 is one my favs, but I wish Wikipedia's page could be better example of Wikipedia could do.

- I agree with both sides, but the argument is a bit silly. AAVE as a term is just an etymological term for this particular kind of slang. Why change it? I think to give the more scientific name for it is appropriate in order to let people know how it is technically defined, not just in common knowledge. This is an encyclopedia, not a forum for people to see what someone thinks about the spelling or pronunciation of a name, leave AAVE in and include it as a contextual necessity for better understanding unrelated to who 50 Cent is. In other words, shut up, it doesn't hurt Wikipedia, any fan of the rapper, or the rapper himself in any way by making another topic accessible that is connected to his name.

- In AAVE 50 Cents need to be called 'Filthy Cents', rather. Filthy Cents sure sucks now. You rappin' or making pop songs with swear words!!!!

His mom was bisexual?
What are you basing this information on? Is it just because of the "kissing the girl" lyrics? Are we sure that isn't just a slang term in reference to heroine use?

no, she was bisexual. 50 Cent has admitted this himself in numerous interviews. Richard Corey 18:24, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Thank you, whoever fixed that vadalism about 50 being dead. That was a rude bit of stupidity. Lord Sephiroth02:14, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Discography
Is there any reason why someone keeps reverting the discography from the Wiki-formatted one to a poorly formatted and hard to read version with pictures and excess information. The breakdowns on how much an album sold in each individual country can go in that album's own article; keep the discography easy to read and clear. --FuriousFreddy 18:27, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Disputes and Controversy
What does "whom Jackson labeled a "snitch" and "traitor"" mean in the rap industry? Maybe a snitch requires its own page? Who cares? Alpine 20:20, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Curtis James Jackson
Was his full name Curtis James Jackson? I googled it and I found many websites say that his full name was Curtis James Jackson III. Is this true? --Hottentot


 * Only a "true" fan will know. .:: Imdaking ::.  Tlk 00:41:49, 2005-09-09 (UTC)

Record deals
Can someone rewrite the first couple of paragraphs. Chronology seems screwed up. To me, it is entirely unclear to which label he is signed (multiple?) etc...

Book Festival
What are those things that are flying at him in the photo of him at a book festival?--60.226.28.162 08:37, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
 * It's the Reading Festival, not the reading festival - music, not books, you know? Anyway, I think it's water being thrown at 50. That's a bit of a guess though...Harro5 09:50, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Reading as in music? That...sounds...unusual. I think on the page, it used to say it was bottles, but I don't think he'd be that tough to sing while bottles are thrown at him, thanks harro5!--60.226.31.92 09:22, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Reading as in a place, the music festival at Reading, get it?

Is "niggerish"appropriate?
I understand the distaste for the degradation of women and usage of such uncouth topics such as drugs and murder in the music of rappers like 50 Cent, but is tying the word Nigger to it necessary, or indeed even appropriate? I think this may hinge on what we see as bias and personal opinion versus objective definition of the music itself.

Myran and D rich?
D rich and Myran are signed to G unit Records as stated on the G unit webpage.


 * Ok someone deleted my last post (New IP) and I see no evidence of Myran or D rich on the G unit homepage. 24.0.130.58

Discography.
The discography needs to be changed ot the standard encyclopedia format. Discuss and showcase images of alternate covers in the actual album article. We cannot use such a discography, because it will become unmanagable for artists with more than about seven albums, and "only doing it for some and not others" is special treatment, and, therefore, does not exemplify a neutral point of view. --FuriousFreddy 02:50, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Copyright violation
The web site "http://www.the-real-story.com/" has copied the complete text of the Wikipedia articles Chicken Little and 50 Cent and has placed its own copyright notice places on the articles. There is no email address listed on the site, but a whois on the domain turns up "IQ-TESTING-ONLINE.COM@domainsbyproxy.com" as the administrative contact. I will send a Standard GFDL violation letter there. - Brian Kendig 16:27, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

nine times
No mention about the possible falsity of the common "shot nine times" story? See http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/56 for an original source on the shooting. Shot at nine times, hit three times. I'm no Fiddy expert, but some googling suggests that this is yet another apocryphal "street cred" story. Staecker 02:05, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

May 2000 shooting removed
The following was removed. Let's talk about it and see if it should be put back. Let me open by saying that I am not a regular editor or anything but I was curious about the shooting, thought "maybe wikipedia mentions it" saw that it didn't and thought I'd add something based on information in google for anyone who came after me. Maybe it should be rewritten but an encyclopedia article about 50 should have much more about this than about "the support of eminem and dr dre". For now I am putting it back.

May 2000 shooting

On May 24, 2000 50 Cent and an associate, 22-year-old Alton Brown, were sitting in a parked car in the Jamaica section of Queens, when an assailant pulled up beside them in and fired nine shots with a handgun. 50 Cent was wounded once in each leg and once in the jaw. Brown, wounded in the hand, drove himself and 50 to a nearby hospital. This incident led to the widespread urban legend in the media and the pop music fanbase that 50 Cent had been "shot nine times." Technically he was shot at nine times, and hit three times.

In various songs, interviews and rumors it is alleged that the shooter was Darryl "Hamo" Baum, whose nickname is pronounced as in "homocide". There are rumors that the shooting was arranged by Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff, a Queens, NY drug dealer. Baum himself was shot and killed three weeks later. 50 Cent has hinted that Baum's killing was in retaliation for the attempt on 50 Cent's life. Others claim Baum's killing was unrelated to 50 Cent but was the result of Baum's feud with a different drug crew in Brooklyn.


 * Yeah and 50 Cent was shot in his hand, and a 5 more times in his legs and thighs on several other occasions... Right? Get your act together. It's 9 times as in 9 actual hits. If you go counting the bullets that stayed in and not the ones that went all the way through or use some sort of infant-math, I'm sorry about that. Quoting a unreliable source is like taking candy from a baby or dancing with a dramaqueen. Don't be a one-way critic, good luck to you. And sign your posts.ShotokanTuning 07:52, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Hey- I quoted a source above (section nine times), and signed my post. Is that source unreliable? Sounds like a straightforward news article about a (then) smalltime rapper who nobody cared about. I don't see why the facts would've been distorted all the way back then. On the other hand I do see why the facts are distorted now. I'm putting it back, with the source link. Let's discuss it here further if you know more about this source than I do. Staecker 18:09, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


 * It seems like a "straightforward news article", though on it self reliability is far fetched (www.sohh.com), but still lets say it's okay. Your post contains different but mostly extra information, that not even that source contains but are from recent posts at Sohh, making it something new, fresh and even more unreliable. Now if give us some reliable sources... Also who drove the car, I can't even find that info in your source. It isn't good to name just a few hits then skip others, but it happens all the time. It says repeatedly in the legs that could be 7 times, like was the 'official' story. Then later it says once in each leg, see how people get confused. Like they drove themselves to the hospital, got treatment, then someone starts counting the bulletwounds?


 * Also let's say for the sake of argument Curtis Jackson got shot three times in that incident, where do the other shell-scars come from? If we are talking multiple incidents, that's a bigger story made small... So you're saying "facts are distorted now", a lie to cover up a bigger story? The logic is far fetched.


 * Patiently waiting your reaction and thanks for signing your post.ShotokanTuning 16:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Much of what you're saying is right- actually my only contribution to the article about this incident was the 3 vs. 9 argument. I don't actually know anything about the driver, etc. That info was here before I got interested. Maybe we should trim out some of those details...


 * And I guess I misspoke about the facts being distorted. I should've said that I see why the facts might be distorted now. Of course I don't know the real truth any more than anybody else, but 50 (both the man and the marketing entity) has huge incentives for people to think that he's as gangsta as they come, which makes me skeptical of his hype machine's story in the presence of dissenting voices.


 * But I do agree that sohh may not be a great source... I'm finding it nearly impossible to find other statements about this on the web (although there's a little roundup by someone reputable, though certainly not a hip-hop insider, here ). Google for 50 cent "shot nine times" gives pure hype, and 50 cent "shot three times" gives news about the recent PA movie theater shooting. Maybe it's one of those "we'll never know" things. If you like, we can just note in the article that there's debate? We can certainly include a note that he's got other shooting wounds, if we claim only 3 in that incident. Staecker 18:14, 26 November 2005 (UTC)


 * That's right, we basicly agree here. I think it's better to inform about a debate then just state either one of them as facts. Even though as I feel right now, it's more reliable to say it's nine times, because if you could prove other wise you could make money with that information. Thanks for the "talk", I think your suggestions work.ShotokanTuning 09:13, 28 November 2005 (UTC)


 * OK who doesn not want links and why? The stuff about the driver of the car is at http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/7723 and is a reflection of a book by Ethan Brown "Queens Reigns Supreme: Fat Cat, 50 Cent, and the Rise of the Hip-Hop Hustler".  One interview where 50 says he was shot by "Hommo" is at playboy.com. http://www.playboy.com/arts-entertainment/features/50cent/04.html Now the stuff about only shot three times, I'm not sure about and don't really care about.  But that he was in a car, was shot by "Hommo" and the other person drove them to the hospital is more solid.  I personally would say take the urban legend stuff out. Signed -Extreme

Why does it say Jackass?
as his middle name

Before I Get to Editing
Can someone tell me why does the May 20, 2000 shooting section have to be like that? Can it be modified to an appropiate title or something merged into the biography section. I do respect the person who insert the piece but the title has to be more than just a date! LILVOKA.
 * (moved to bottom- new stuff goes at bottom) You're welcome to modify the subsection name if you like- I personally think it does deserve its own heading, since that one event is cited so often in popular discussion about 50. So I'd be against a total merge into the bio section. But that's just my opinion. Staecker 00:40, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Losers, the lot of them
[personal attack removed]
 * This isn't a message board. Please, sign your posts.ShotokanTuning 22:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

GRODT vs. Power of a Dollar
Okay, I understand most people only care about music once it hits the radio, but we DO know that 50 Cent completed 2 whole albums before he was picked up by Shady/Aftermath, right?

I think "Power of a Dollar" and "Guess Who's Back" should be added to his discography. If not "Power of a Dollar" (okay, it wasn't released), then at least "Guess Who's Back."Richard Corey 18:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

"Power of The Dollar" should be added to his discography if anything. Much of the songs from "Guess Who's Back" are cuts fom POTD anyway.

The Original?
As somebody mostly unfamiliar with "the scene" in general, and Mr. Jackson particularly, the section about "The Original 50 Cent" is confusing and unclear. Is it even relevant to the article? Is it verifiable, much less verified? In any case, if it's necessary to mention the death of The Original, it should be done a little more formally than saying his sheistiness got him killed. And the bit about his family still being alive, and not respecting Curtis Jackson, that shouldn't be in there. I'd edit it myself, but being unfamiliar with the actual story, I'm afraid I'd misrepresent it. --ParkerHiggins 10:04, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

His #1 songs
In most articles about then rappers who have had #1 songs next to the #1 it tells how long that song was at #1. Can this be done to 50 Cent's article if anyone knows how long Candy Shop and In Da Club were #1's?

Nuts?
Has nobody ever thought if 50 cent is nuts? We get to hear this about people like Tom Cruise, but someone that makes money talking about guns, violence and murder gets accepted in society, even gets nominated for best song writer.

I think it's sad that an survivial-of-the-fittest attitude receives so much credibility.

I'm assuming your attacking rap as a whole. 1st off, ever hear of the term controversy sells. 2nd, rap isnt only about violence, you'd be suprised how many songs there are that are serious and deep.

Clean Up
I removed this line: "50 had once worked with McGriff and the Supreme Team and they were not pleased about him leaving the business." I am more than sure 50 Cent had no direct dealing with the Supreme Team. In fact, in the book "Queens Reigns Supreme : Fat Cat, 50 Cent, and the Rise of the Hip Hop Hustler" I believe it is mentioned that the two never met outside of casual glances. Richard Corey 18:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)Thats not true 50 was a member of the supreme team before having a falling out with McGriff.

pretty much this is going to show how are kids should grow up, and now violence will spred everyhere thanks to these kind of people

Vandalism
Someone should clean up this article of all the vandalism. I would do it but I don't know all the dates and exact facts about 50 cent. Why are those vandals so jealous of 50 cent? In Wikipedia we try to keep everything neutral. Not even politic-related articles have so many vandalism.