Talk:59th Ordnance Brigade

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"Members of the 579th wore the shoulder sleeve insignia of the Theater Army Support Command (TASCOM) until 1974, then the United States Army Europe (USAREUR). They wore the distinctive unit insignia of the 59th Ordnance Brigade until 1977 when the unit switched to that of the 3rd Ordnance Battalion."

This is incorrect. I served at the 579th Ordnance Company in 1971-72 and we wore the AWSCOM shoulder sleeve insignia.

http://www.usarmypatches.com/Collect/Commands%20Combined/Cmd%20Advanced%20Weapons%20Spt%20Cmd-b.jpg

Here's a photo of the company sign, 1972.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:579thOrdCoSign.jpg

I wore the AWSCOM patch on the right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grumpyoldgeek (talk • contribs) 21:27, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Grumpyoldgeek (talk • contribs) 03:11, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I'll have to revisit that. (579th, 1979–1980) --21lima (talk) 02:34, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Nakamuradavid addition
Bunch of people that NEVER were a Member of 59th Ordnance Brigade, 3rd Ordnance Battalion after being switched from 32nd Air Defense Artillery to 59th Ordnance Brigade. the 579th Ordnance Company was no longer part of the 3rd Ordnance Battalion (formerly the 59th Ordnance Brigade's Special Troops Battalion Husterhoeh Kaserne Pirmasens Federal Republic of West Germany, and later renamed Theater Support Battalion Husterhoeh Kaserne Pirmasens Federal Republic of West Germany, finally renamed 3rd Ordnance Battalion. Nakamuradavid (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Additional Facts and References, there was a fight between Nuclear Weapons Ordnance of 59th Ordnance Brigade, Conventional Munitions Ordnance like 60th Ordnance Group, Wheeled and Tracked Vehicle Maintenance Ordnance Groups like the 51st Ordnance Group, for Ordnance Battalions, Companies, even Detachments. USAREUR decided, Nuclear Weapons Battalions and Companies, Chemical Munitions, and Missiles go to 59th Ordnance Brigade as "Special Weapons". Conventional Munitions go to 60th Ordnance Group, and some of the USAREUR Theater Support Commands like 21st Support Command, 7th Support Command. Missiles ended up based on the kind of Missiles, Pershing 1a and Pershing 2 went to 59th Ordnance Brigade (Maintenance) and the 56th Field Artillery, while the Lance, MGM-52, went to 41st Ordnance Company (Maintenance) and the Field Artillery Groups Federal Republic of West Germany. See USAREUR Units

7th Army Support Command

ORDNANCE

71st Ord Bn (M&S), Hq & Hq Det 	Dachau 6th Ord Co (Dir Spt) 	Neckarsulm 22nd Ord Co (Dir Spt) 	Munich 350th Ord Det (Bal-Tech Svc) 	Vilseck 556th Ord Co (Dir Spt) 	Zirndorf 569th Ord Co (Dir Auto Spt)"

"51st Ordnance Group 81st Ordnance Battalion (M&S)

HHD, 81th Ord Bn (M&S) 	Mannheim-Sandhofen 77th Ord Co (GAS) 	Mannheim-Sandhofen 517th Ord Co (GS) 	Mannheim-Sandhofen 533rd Ord Co (C&C) 	Mannheim-Sandhofen 579th Ord Co (GM)(GS) 	Wiesbaden 167th Ord Det 	Wiesbaden 8901st Civ Labor Gp (Ord)(DAS) 	ROB, Kaiserslautern 28th Army Postal Unit 	Mannheim-Sandhofen

579th Ordnance Company (Guided Missile General Support)

The 579th Ordnance Company is the newest ordnance unit in the entire United States Army, and is the latest addition to the 81st Ordnance Battalion family. Constituted and activated at Wiesbaden, Germany on 24 June 1961, the 579th is the first Guided Missile General Support Ordnance Unit to be employed in an overseas theatre. The formation of this company is only the latest in a long series of actions taken to provide Seventh Army Missile units with the best ordnance support available in the entire army.

The original personnel for the 579th Ordnance Company were drawn chiefly from the Seventh United States Army Advance Weapons Guided Missile Company, Gonsenheim and the 367th Ordnance Detachment, both of which were inactivated upon activation of the 579th.

The mission of the 579th Ordnance Company is to provide general support maintenance for all non-explosive components of "Y" missiles and all ordnance materiel of the ground guidance launching and handling equipment not allied with automotive or conventional mechanical equipment.

The 579th Ordnance Company is commanded by Captain William H. Dodd, Ordnance Corps."

Like I said before unless you were there, 1981 to 1990 before they were deactivated you would NOT know anything.Nakamuradavid (talk) 16:36, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The 579th was disbanded in 1982, so 1990 does not enter into it. And that was before Pershing 2. The 41st Ord maintained and supplied float equipment for Pershing until the 55th Spt was formed. Otherwise, I can't pick out what you are discussing here. Looks like you copied a lot of this from usarmygermany. Much of the article section is sourced from that. --21lima (talk) 21:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)