Talk:5th Dalai Lama/Archive 1

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I have double checked the spelling of his name in a Tibetan dictionary, and this is correct. --Nathan hill 14:57, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Are there two different autobiographies?
This one: manuscript Secret visions of the 5th Dalai Lama (engl. and german), or as is it called at Amazon Secret Visions of the Fifth Dalai Lama: The Gold Manuscript in the Fournier Collection Musee Guimet, Paris (Paperback) by Samten Gyaltsen Karmay (Author) and this one: Two extracts from the autobiography of the Fifth Dalai Lama called Dukulai Gosang, Volume Kha, Lhasa Publication taken from the Homepage of The 14TH Dalai Lama.


 * Austerlitz -- 88.72.5.166 (talk) 10:53, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

About the second one: , —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.202.60.13 (talk) 10:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC) Information by Googlebooks -- 212.202.60.13 (talk) 10:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

"Although rumor had it that Drakpa Gyaltsen and the fifth Dalai Lama were on bad terms, there was no any actual frictions between them, as is evident from the biographies of Penchen Lobsang Choekyi Gyaltsen, the Fifth Dalai Lama and Trulku Drakpa Gyaltsen. In his autobiography, Drakpa Gyaltsen mentions that he received many teachings from the great Fifth Dalai Lama, and also invited him to his residence and had excellent opportunity to attend on him with high reverence and spent the whole day in conversation with him."
 * Austerlitz -- 88.75.72.76 (talk) 10:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Re-incarnations
This informations belongs here, too, I think: Anti-Shugden Page "Due to his connection with political powers, he [Namsey Norbu] manipulated and managed to place his son in the list of candidates for reincarnation of the fourth Dalai Lama, Yonten Gyatso (1589-1616). Nevertheless, his rival candidate, Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso (1617-1682), was recognized as the true reincarnation of the fourth Dalai Lama. Drakpa Gyaltsen’s mother Lak Agyal therefore forcibly proclaimed her son to be the reincarnation of the Trulku Gelek Palsang, and he thus got the name Trulku Drakpa Gyaltsen."
 * Austerlitz -- 88.75.205.190 (talk) 11:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

The Anti-Shugden Page has vanished.
 * Austerlitz -- 88.75.66.96 (talk) 10:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Sources referring to Shugden

 * The Great 5th Dalai Lama Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso
 * Austerlitz -- 88.75.205.190 (talk) 11:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * A Brief History Of Opposition To Shugden Tibetan Government in Exile
 * Austerlitz -- 88.75.66.96 (talk) 11:05, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Another Source

 * DZOGCHEN The Heartessence of the Great Perfection/Dzogchen Teachings given in the West by His Holiness the Dalai Lama with additional informations about the socalled Great Fifth
 * Austerlitz -- 88.72.13.89 (talk) 09:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Title
I don't know where to add this information within the article.
 * Judging from the title of the book the 5th Dalai Lama has been called "Sprul sku gZims Khang gong ma" (meaning the tulku of the upper residence (of Drepung).
 * Austerlitz -- 88.72.28.219 (talk) 09:32, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Much of this article is lifted directly from the Samten G. Karmay article it cites. However, quotes are often not in quotation marks.

This article should be based on a broader base of works, and authors should always indicate direct quotes with quotation marks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.235.149 (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)