Talk:8th Armoured Brigade (United Kingdom)

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--JeffGBot (talk) 21:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

According to the article prior to my amendments:

"The German 716th Static Infantry Division commanded by Generalleutnant Wilhelm Richter, and elements of the 1st Battalion of the German 352nd Infantry Division commanded by Generalleutnant Dietrich Kraiss, defended the Channel coast for the Germans."

This implies that just over one division guarded the whole channel coast as the french part of the channel coast stretches from Brest to Dunkirk, some 300 miles as the crow flies (more like 500 miles following the coast), this seems a very weak defence to me! [Also, sentence could be interpreted as saying that GL Kraiss commanded just the elements of the "1st Btn" of 352 Division!]

If the author was referring just to the invasion area, there are several other units committed to the defence; even just considering Gold Beach it is wrong: 716th Division was so spread out that it had units at Omaha, Juno and Sword Beaches as well as at Gold Beach. Wikipedia's article on Gold Beach even states that the Division's (Infantry) elements covering Gold was a single Company of the 736 Grenadier Regiment and two companies of the attached 441 Ost Battalion!

As for the elements from 352 Division... What of earth is the "1st Btn" of a Division? Surely, if any unit in an infantry division was granted this honour, it would be the Fusilier Btn; failing that then surely it would be the 1st Btn of the senior Regiment in the division! Wikipedia's article on Gold Beach says 1st Btn, 914th Grenadier Regt. But these sources say 1st Btn of 916 Grenadier Regt: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/ww2/germandef.html www.6juin1944.com/assaut/gold/en_index.php

Operation Perch Original Wording implies that, after failure of D-Day assault on Caen, there was another major attempt before Operation Perch; further, besides these three attempts, it suggest that there might have been at least one minor attempt! After the failure on 6/7 July, the next attempt was Operation Perch.

Large parts of this article seem to have been cut and pasted from "A Short History of the 8th Armoured Brigade" and then slightly modified - comparing with the original it seems that sometimes salient information was been removed. Unfortunately, the source is far from perfect, with several paragraphs not in chronological order.

The source makes reference to an action (on 7 August) at the village of Le Plessis Grimault, where the Brigade captured the first Royal Tiger "which had ever been encountered". The wording is unclear; it suggests that before this engagement no unit had encountered a Royal Tiger in action. Did the author actually mean this or did he really mean that it was the first encounter by the Brigade? If the first, then the author was mistaken; 19 days earlier (on 18 July), during Operation Goodwood, Lt Gorman's Sherman Tank of the 2nd (Armoured) Battalion, Irish Guards, rammed a Tiger II, disabling it. Here are two links about this: www.irishguards.org.uk/pages/poems/stories.html> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/503rd_Heavy_Panzer_BattalionGlevum (talk) 21:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

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