Talk:A-League Men records and statistics

How much is enough
How many top scorers and highest attendances should be in this article? A top ten of both perhaps? --Squilibob 14:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Top ten should be enough - we are now getting into enough games played that there won't be a huge number of people tied on a single position in the list. May be an idea to keep some of the names outside the top ten in the list, and keep the figures up to date, but comment them out, so when names enter or exit the list it is easy to update. -- Chuq 00:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Does anyone have a list of top 15 or 20 scorers so we can update the table? -- Batobatobato 07:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Penalty shootout wins
It's a FIFA convention in official records to count a match that goes to a penalty shootout as a draw for both teams... should we use it here in the all time finals table? – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 01:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not. I think the stats should be in accordance with FIFA conventions. Batobatobato 11:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyone else agree/disagree? Batobatobato 12:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Highest-scoring rounds?
Wanderer 01:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm interested in there being a section on the rounds with the highest scores. For instance, Round 10 set this season's record with 18 goals scored, eclipsing 15 in round 8. I suspect that 18 might be a league record number of goals scored in a round.

I mention this as some people measure the 'entertainment value' of a league by the goals scored - comparing it with say the EPL, Serie A, Bundesliga etc.

All Time Ladder
The seven founding teams that are still active have all played 64 matches (by adding up Wins, Losses, and Draws) according to that table. There are only 21 rounds per season, meaning that each time can have only played 63 matches. Is this table just slightly out-of-date and including pre-season matches, or has someone added a round twice?Morstar (talk) 04:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as the all time season ladder shows only regualar season games, and finals matches table only does the finals, would anyone be interested in one that shows total, including pre-season, season and post-season matches? As time goes on it could be interesting as the all time ladder may show one team on top, but overall that team may lose a lot in pre-season and finals, as is the case at the moment with Adelaide United. Anyone think this would be a worthy implementation?

And just as a sidenote, I noticed that Adelaide already use a similar thing when referring to their records against other clubs and per stadium etc. Chalkstar2188 (talk) 13:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

most Appearances
Who is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.54.155.174 (talk) 21:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

New All-time ladder
Since I never got a response to my query earlier about having a ladder which combines regular season games and finals games, as it may be interesting to note such trends which cause some statistics to change, such as Adelaide United having a very good season record (best in league), but a terrible finals record (worst of teams who have played finals), and thus their overall record puts them close to level pegging with the likes of Sydney and Melbourne. I have gone ahead and created such as table which is combining the regular season matches with the post-season finals matches. I have based it off the similar one Adelaide uses to measure their sucess against other clubs and at venues. Any comments or critique? Chalkstar2188 (talk) 14:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Team and season record changes
I'm going to suggest a reasonably major overhaul of these sections. Firstly, I think only the record holder of each category needs to be displayed. For example: Longest undefeated streak should only display Melbourne's 10 undefeated matches, not the nines and the eights. The exception of course would be when there is a joint record, such as Most points in a season to miss finals. I am basing this on the Premier League records system. This has also brought to my attention the fact that the records will be different now that the seasons are 27 rounds long, so I suggest having records for both the 21 and 27 round seasons (the Premier League records also use this as they now have 38 match seasons instead of 42). I can do this myself, I just wanted to see if there were any objects or any other thoughts. Thanks, timsdad   (talk) 13:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Most number of hat-tricks in a match by a team
Do we need a new section... well, half-joking... obviously not something that is going to be repeated too often :) -- Chuq (talk) 04:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Biggest Victories
The first half of this section is sorted based on aggregate but the second half is sorted by date. It needs to be one or the other so which is the best option? O for Awesome (talk) 07:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Stats
Mad stats bruv O for Awesome (talk) 07:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.216.63 (talk)

Highest goalscorers in a single season
Is this stat included? Portillo (talk) 06:23, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Errors
The references that we are using for several of the records, in particular the goals and appearances records, have some errors in them. For example, as of the end of Round 26 (2012-13 season), John Hutchinson has 173 appearances (as noted [here], yet our [reference] lists him at 174, due to an [error] where he is listed as entering a game twice (the CCM vs Perth game). I've kept it at 174 since this is what the reference says, despite it being wrong.

There are other problems, such as [incorrect goal counts] (the Sydney FC vs Newcastle game is listed as 2-1 despite it showing 3 Sydney goals). Should we correct such mistakes in the article, or should we leave it as it is in the reference? Preferably, we could find a more accurate reference, although I'm not sure where. There doesn't seem to be any online match reports of the early seasons since the official A-league changed their website a couple of years ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gazzawhite (talk • contribs) 22:48, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I think the errors should be fixed. I've also noticed a few small mistakes on that site in other tables and they also had a different way of calculating some of their goal and card tallies (either they were innacurate or included/excluded finals games when they should or shouldn't have been. Other than that, it's still a helpful source, but it would definitely be good to find a few more to back this one up. O for Awesome (talk) 03:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Surely there's a better way
The article was changed today to say that Melbourne City has played in a final. That's just wrong, and we all know it. I know the club's name has changed, but it really seems like a rewrite of history, removing forever the fact that Melbourne Heart played in a final before City had anything to do with it. Like something out of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four. So, see the article title. HiLo48 (talk) 10:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine. The notes section at the bottom of the page explains the change (and is linked to the table). Melbourne Heart is Melbourne City so I'm not sure how misleading this is... Do you have the same issue with Brisbane and Queensland Roar? I guess if anything the year of the change could be added to the note. Macosal (talk) 11:41, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not that simple. When Heart played in a final, the current City ownership had nothing to do with the club. The (admittedly limited) success of Heart is being wrongly attributed to a Johnny-come-lately. Notes in other places in the article don't change that. There has to be a better way. HiLo48 (talk) 11:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you have something in mind? It isn't uncommon for clubs to change ownership (or name, for that matter), and I don't think it's seen as "taking credit" (or particularly "misleading"). What are your thoughts on Brisbane/Queensland Roar? The club have different owners now than they used to when they were called Queensland... Macosal (talk) 12:01, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm from Melbourne. I'm allowed to be parochially ignorant. Brisbane who? HiLo48 (talk) 21:30, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2015
please change: Fewest away losses in a season: 1, Brisbane Roar (2010–11) to: Fewest away losses in a season: 0, Sydney FC (2014–15)

120.151.203.194 (talk) 08:26, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Kharkiv07 Talk  12:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, much better to have an unsourced error than a unsourced fact.

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2015
Melbourne Victory lead A-league Premierships with 3 and Championships with 3.

Bcdude16 (talk) 11:04, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:35, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2018
"Change Club Record 'Most goals scored in a season' to 64, Sydney FC (2017-18)" "Add 'Perth Glory (2017-18)' to Club Record 'Fewest draws in a season': 2" "Add 'Sydney FC (2017-18)' to Club Record 'Most wins in a season': 20" "Add 'Sydney FC (2017-18)' to Club Record 'Most home wins in a season': 10" "Change Club Record 'Most consecutive home games without a loss' to 27, Sydney FC (10 April 2016 - 17 March 2018)" "Change Club Record 'Fewest failures to score in a match in a season' to 2, Newcastle Jets (2017-18) and Sydney FC (2017-18)" "Change Player Record 'Most goals in a season' to 27, Bobo (for Sydney FC, 2017-18)" "Add 'Sydney FC (2017-18)' to Club Record 'Most away wins in a season': 10" "Change Club Record 'Most goals scored at home in a season' to 36, Sydney FC (2017-18)" "Change Managers 'Most A-League Premiership wins' to 3, Graham Arnold" "Add 'Kevin Muscat' to Managers 'Most A-League Championship wins': 2" "Add 'Alex Wilkinson' and 'Matt Simon' to Other Individual Records 'Most A-League Premiership wins': 4" Jeff229 (talk) 06:54, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:37, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 July 2020
Sydney FC has won their 4th Premiership titles and should be noted under "Premierships" with the team, with the most titles. 49.193.99.243 (talk) 00:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. WDM10 (talk) 00:59, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 April 2021
The 2nd all time goal scorer should be switched from Shane Smeltz to Jamie McClaren who is now on 93 goals not 91.

Source: https://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=pg&season=overall 2406:5A00:2437:6E00:618A:D8CC:9476:48F0 (talk) 08:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thank you for your request. The requested part has been changed. If you have any information on the other parameters, such as the season, date of first goal, or day of last goal please make another request or contact me by using this at the beginning of your message:  Thanks again! Dswitz10734 (talk) 19:48, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 April 2021
The "lowest attendance record" has changed since last Monday (26 April) in the 2020-2021 A-League season, Western United vs Newcastle Jets had a crowd attendance of 990. This breaks the previous lowest record of 1,003. 49.193.55.9 (talk) 13:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 May 2021
PLEASE VIEW RECORDS UNDER RELEVANT SEASON AND EDIT THIS TO THE A-LEAGUE RECORDS AS THEY HAVE BEEN EITHER MATCHED IN RECORD OR SURPASSED:

Most consecutive losses: 11, Central Coast Mariners (2019-2020)

Most losses: 20, Central Coast Mariners (2018-2019)

Fewest away wins: 1 (Central Coast Mariners (2018-2019)

Most home loss in a season: 9, Central Coast Mariners (2018-2019)

Most premierships as coach: 3, Tony Popovic

Highest scoring game: Mariners 2-8 Phoenix 9/3/2019

Biggest away win: Mariners 2-8 Phoenix 9/3/2019

2015-2016 season CCM Most home losses: 9 Central Coast Mariners (2015-2016) 49.193.55.9 (talk) 08:08, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:10, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 May 2021 (2)
2018-2019 Most losses: 20, Central Coast Mariners

2018-2019 Fewest away wins: 1, Central Coast Mariners equalled the previous record holder

2018-2019 Most home loss season: 9, Central Coast Mariners

2018-2019 2019 Highest scoring & biggest away win: Central Coast Mariners 2-8 Wellington Phoenix 9/3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_Central_Coast_Mariners_FC_season all results for 2018-2019 matches of central coast are in this link which includes all the records mentioned.

- 2015-2016 Most home losses: 9, Central Coast Mariners equaled their previous record

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_Central_Coast_Mariners_FC_season link for 2015-2016 records stated above displays the record within the reference link

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2019-2020 Most consecutive losses: 11, Central Coast Mariners. They equalled New Zealand Knight's current record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Central_Coast_Mariners_FC_season link above shows the record stated above under "results" for the central coast mariner's 2019-2020 season in the link. 49.193.55.9 (talk) 10:07, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I checked "most home losses" at random, and the page linked shows home losses of 8, not 9. It would be easier if you provided direct external links to the sources for these claims. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:12, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Apologies for the 2018-2019 Central Coast most home losses mistake. That was 8 losses. Though I would like to add this link as it shows their "most losses in a season" and "fewest away wins" as well as the "highest-scoring" and "biggest away win" (central coast playing at home in that game). The game for highest-scoring and biggest away win was the central coast game against phoenix on the 9th of March 2019. This is in the link provided under results.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_A-League

Moreover, I would like to add the 2015-2016 link for most home losses for central coast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_Central_Coast_Mariners_FC_season

I would also like to add the 2019-2020 season for central coast as it provides somewhat of a source to their "most consecutive losses" of 11. This equalled New Zealand Knight's record of 11 as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Central_Coast_Mariners_FC_season

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 May 2021
2018-2019 Most losses: 20, Central Coast Mariners

2018-2019 Fewest away wins: 1, Central Coast Mariners equalled the previous record holder

2018-2019 Most home loss season: 9, Central Coast Mariners

2018-2019 2019 Highest scoring & biggest away win: Central Coast Mariners 2-8 Wellington Phoenix 9/3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_Central_Coast_Mariners_FC_season all results for 2018-2019 matches of central coast are in this link which includes all the records mentioned. 49.193.55.9 (talk) 14:43, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Also, please provide a reliable source for the changes you want to make. Wikipedia cannot be used as a source in other articles per WP:CIRCULAR. &mdash;  LeoFrank   Talk 10:14, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 September 2023
Add to "records": Please add to "most consecutive defeats": Central Coast Mariners: 11, from 19 January 2020 — 18 July 2020

Please add to "most losses" 2018-2019, Central Coast Mariners in the 2018-2019 season.

Please add to "fewest away wins": 1, Central Coast Mariners equalled the previous record holder in the 2018-2019 season.

Please add to "most home loss in a season": 9, Central Coast Mariners in the 2018-2019 season.

Please add to "highest scoring & biggest away win": Central Coast Mariners 2-8 Wellington Phoenix 9th March (2018-2019 season)

Source: "Central Coast Mariners Streaks". ALeagueStats.com. Retrieved 3 January 2023. 103.27.152.125 (talk) 04:57, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Also, when does the extended protection expire? Required these changes to occur for several years but still not updated. Instructions have been put in quotations under which subsection to be placed for the changes yet still confusion is occurring. Need extended protection to be removed so that I can show the changes under the right subheadings with sources provided of course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.27.152.125 (talk) 05:02, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ❌ Information does not match given source ; requester was blocked as a sockpuppet. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 18:30, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Change clean sheet records
As at 5 Feb 2024 - Current players have new records

Danny Vukovic 95/322

Andrew Redmayne 64/253

Jamie Young 53/215

Lawrence Thomas 44/159

Most A-League Men clean sheets (career): 90, Liam Reddy

should be updated to

Most A-League Men clean sheets (career): 95, Danny Vukovic

Njames180 (talk) 04:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Central Coast Mariners 2018-2019 season had many loss records:
Please add to "Most defeats in a season" under "defeats": 20, Central Coast Mariners in the 2018-2019 season.

Please add to "Fewest away wins in a season" under "wins": 1, Central Coast Mariners equalled the previous record holder in the 2018-2019 season.

Please add to "Most home defeats in a season" under "defeats": 9, Central Coast Mariners in the 2018-2019 season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_Central_Coast_Mariners_FC_season - source: please refer to each result and scoreline as per request of each line.

60.242.104.133 (talk) 06:58, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 April 2024

 * Most consecutive Premiership title wins: 3 Melbourne City (2020–21, 2021–22, [[2022–23 A-League Men|2022–23])


 * undefined 150.101.221.93 (talk) 10:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)