Talk:ABBA Gold/Archive 1

Track Listing
Arguably somewhat UK-centric by including Lay All Your Love On Me which was Top 10 only in the UK and Ireland and excluding I Do I Do I Do I Do I Do which was a Top 10 in a number of countries though not the UK. Summer Night City a bigger hit globally than Voulez Vous was excluded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan (talk • contribs) 13:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Name change
In accordance with policy MOS:CL (and to clear this page from the backlog of articles needed copy edit), would someone please move this page (and its talk page) to Abba Gold:Greatest Hits (album) or a similar title. I'm still quite new and don't know how. Escape Artist Swyer | Talk to me | Articles touched by my noodly appendage 16:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The " (album)" part of that name is unneeded as there will probably be only one topic for the title Abba Gold:Greatest Hits. Recent rulings (I'm not sure if this has been incorporated in any guidelines) discourage "preemptive disambiguation" altogether. Precedents: EP7, Manowar. / edgarde 19:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * A dispute here means that the ABBA-related pages probably won't move. Escape Artist Swyer | Talk to me | Articles touched by my noodly appendage 09:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Swiss album sales
Somebody keeps changing the Swiss sales to 500,000+ because the album is certified 10x Platinum there. The amount for Platinum awards in Switzerland have changed in recent years as seen here on the Official Swiss Charts website. Up until 2000, Platinum was given for sales of 50,000 copies. From 2001-05, it was decreased to 40,000 copies, and since 2006 it has been for 30,000 copies. ABBA Gold was certified 9x Platinum by the end of 2000, which amounts to 450,000 copies. It received its tenth Platinum disc in 2008 - which is an additional 30,000 copies. Therefore the overall certified sales total so far for Switzerland is 480,000 copies. Please do not change this sales figure until the album receives another Platinum disc. 80.41.68.126 (talk) 17:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry to comment so late. As far as I know, almost all IFPI certificates are done by date of release, not by date of certification (France I believe is the only exception). Therefore, 10x for a record released in 1992, is 500,000. --Muhandes (talk) 12:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

That's right certification is based on date of release certification (Coachtripfan (talk) 19:37, 15 December 2012 (UTC))

Album title
Is the title of this album definitely ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits? I can find several reliable sources (e.g. The Official Charts Company, The Daily Telegraph, ABC Online, Gulf Daily News, Reuters, Contactmusic) that all state that the album is really simply titled Gold: Greatest Hits. I've got a copy of the album, and I always took the word "ABBA" on its cover art and spine to refer to the band's name, rather than actually being part of the album title. I propose moving this article to Gold: Greatest Hits (ABBA album). A Thousand Doors (talk &#124; contribs) 15:37, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

In their official site, it's under the name "ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits" link.--WABBAW (talk) 01:42, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I still feel that Gold: Greatest Hits is the most common name for this album, as evidenced by the number of sources that refer to it as such (see above). It may well be titled ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits on the band's official website, but Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name. I think that Gold: Greatest Hits is the name by which most people would search for an encyclopaedic article on this subject, so I would still like to make the move, but I welcome any further discussion on the matter. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk &#124; contribs) 16:56, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

You move this article, then you better move these, to: You've just proven you have no common sense. Now, you better get consensus, or you will be blocked! --Discographer (talk) 20:42, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ABBA Live
 * More ABBA Gold: More ABBA Hits
 * ABBA Oro: Grandes Éxitos
 * I was asked to look at this matter, by Discographer. On reviewing the links, which are the Reliable Sources from which WP derives its content, all references other than the band website use only the "Gold: Greatest Hits" title with ABBA as artist. It seems that the correct title would be Gold: Greatest Hits (ABBA album), with ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits as a very plausible redirect. I would also caution against anyone threatening anyone else with blocking over what is very apparently a content dispute - blocks are for disruption and vandalism, and good faith edits ( even if wrong ) do not qualify. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:05, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay then, go ahead and move it. Best, --Discographer (talk) 21:07, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

This sounds like your personal opinions. Yes, there are "reliable sources" for it being simply Gold: Greatest Hits, though the group should have official say over the title of their album. So I personally think the title of the album is ABBA Gold, but I am not going to start an edit-war over this. There are many flaws and inconsistencys throughout Wikipedia already, so this debate is not that important to me. Just stating my opinion. --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 11:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Certifications - sales figures
I see the main page now has list of certicated sales - and not just award of gold/platinum/mult-platinum.

See this site for full certifications http://abbasales.hpage.com NB - The UK's sales of GOLD are NOT certifications but sales from the Official Charts Company. Gold's UK sales

The 14xplatinum sales for UK are based on official sales since February 1994 when the Official Charts Company became the chart compiler. They exclude sales from 1992-93. (Coachtripfan (talk) 14:27, 17 September 2013 (UTC))

ABBA Gold Has Now Officially Sold 30 Million Globally
source for 30 million (Coachtripfan (talk) 17:53, 6 March 2016 (UTC))

Gold - The UK's 2nd Best Selling Album
In the Article you say that ABBA Gold is the UK's 3rd Best Selling Album. In fact the UK Chart Compilers - The OCC - announced that it had become the UK's 2nd Best Selling Album on W/E 13th May 2013 - 13 Months ago. Now only 'Greatest Hits' by Queen has outsold it in the UK. 82.6.134.233 (talk) 15:51, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

LINK:,

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abba-overtake-the-beatles-as-gold-becomes-the-uks-second-biggest-selling-album-of-all-time-2225/

Wasn't the original 1992 Gold remastered/remixed itself?
I'm sure it was and Frida says so in one of her interviews too. Thanks - Chris --Chrisjwowen (talk) 11:17, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Re-mastered, yes. Re-mixed, no. (Coachtripfan (talk) 18:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC))

Eleventh biggest album in Australia
This is not correct. It is the 11th biggest album since 1988 (as per link). That list misses all the great selling albums prior - Including one of ABBA's biggest there - The Best Of ABBA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.129.67 (talk) 22:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

The 3rd= BEST SELLING ALBUM IN AUSTRALIA
The Article Links to a Site that uses a Points System, to work out the 'All Time' Albums in Australia. The Article says that it is the 11th 'All Time' Australian Album on that Site. In fact it is now the 13th. However, its Australian Sales, (Certified), are over 1,190,000, which makes it the 3rd= 'All Time Best Selling Album' there. It is 3rd= with Brothers In Arms by Dire Straits. Both are Certified 17 X Platinum there. So 3rd= is a lot better than the 13th place that ABBA Gold gets via a Points System. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_in_Australia 82.6.134.233 (talk) 13:54, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 13 July 2016

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– Not sure an explanation is actually needed to be honest. One is a barely notable video/DVD, one is a moderately notable album in the UK, and the other is one of the biggest-selling albums of all time worldwide. Unreal7 (talk) 22:21, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Gold: Greatest Hits (ABBA album) → Gold: Greatest Hits
 * Gold: Greatest Hits → Gold: Greatest Hits (disambiguation)
 * Support. The ABBA album gets 212 views day. The Steps albums gets 22 and the video 5.|Gold:_Greatest_Hits_(Steps_album)|Gold:_Greatest_Hits_(video) Gulangyu (talk) 13:57, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support far more significant both short-term and long-term than other topics of the same name. SST  flyer  02:44, 16 July 2016 (UTC)


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ABBA Gold's French Sales
The Article gives ABBA Gold just under 1,115,000 Sales in France. Frances 'All Time Best Selling Albums' were recently calculated. 'ABBA Gold' was up to 1,815,000 French Sales by January of 2017. So, your Total is over 700,000 too low 86.2.61.136 (talk) 12:35, 6 March 2017 (UTC)