Talk:AFI's 100 Years...100 Movie Quotes

Play it again, Sam
>>"Play it, Sam. Play 'As Time Goes By.'" Casablanca (1942). Usually misquoted as "Play it again, Sam."<< Not really. Bergman said the line mentioned above. The "Play it again, Sam" misquote is attrib to Bogey, whose actual dialogue is:
 * RICK: You played it for her and you can play it for me.
 * SAM: Well, I don't think I can remember it.
 * RICK: If she can stand it, I can. Play it!

Given the ubiquity of the Bogey (mis)quote, I think AFI got the wrong stick here. SigPig 04:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

"Win one for the Gipper..."
Why is Pat O'Brien credited with this? Ronald Reagan said it.
 * Appears O'Brien might say it first and Reagen is quoting him: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032676/quotes (John User:Jwy talk) 16:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Reversions: "Incomplete" quotes
I have made some reversions because people have been "fleshing out" the quotes. Point is, the quotes as is are the ones selected, for better or worse, as being great. In other words, "You can't handle the truth!", not "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!" --SigPig 07:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I wonder if such a thing exists...
Anyone heard of a video with each of these quotes (in clip form)? That's the first thing I thought of when I read this list. If there isn't, I'd be interested in working on one...

--24.131.43.126 22:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

It certainly would be interesting to have such a video, but also it would be too expensive in terms of permissions to use those scenes, especially because they are so emblematic. --Fredyrod 18:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Quotes/Misquotes
The "Planet of the Apes" and "Wizard of Oz" quotes as they are listed as of this edit are in accordance with AFI's own list; namely, "Get your stinking paws..." not "Take your stinking paws...", and "Toto, I've got a feeling..." not "Toto, I've a feeling..." If you "know" different, add a note AND A CITE, otherwise leave it to match AFI's ref. Or take it up with AFI, if you've a mind. Tks. --  SigPig  \SEND - OVER 14:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The quote is "Toto, Iv'e a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."
 * Here's a source. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032138/quotes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.102.86 (talk) 19:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The general approach now is to use the AFI version in the table and to discuss any misquotes in AFI's 100 Years...100 Movie Quotes. Toto is there, too.  --John (User:Jwy/talk) 19:18, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Re #2: Marlon Brando says "...gonna...", not "...going to...": This is a misquote? Or "gonna" is a representation of how some people pronounce "going to" some of the time? I would say there's no one true answer here, but there is probably a convention; the attention of a professional linguist is hereby requested.HowardJWilk (talk) 18:50, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Its gotten a little complicated. It looks like the AFI web page is inconsistent with the PDF files of the original ballot info.  The AFI site page now has Dorothy dropping the "got".  I've added a footnote to explain.  But the reference for the table at the moment is to the PDF.  Not a big deal, but it would be nice to be consistent.  Thoughts?  --John (User:Jwy/talk) 03:21, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Changed the lead section
I'm surprised nobody noticed the mistake in the lead. It was written that Faye Dunaway had two quotes, when she only has one on that list. Judy Garland was not listed as having more than one quote, while she has two. I made the changes accordingly. Jeffpw 11:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

198.254.16.201 14:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)racefan_72001
It was Faye Dunaway, Bonnie Parker, that said "We rob banks!" ....#41


 * AFI states in their nominations that it was Clyde, played by Warren Beatty. If you know better than they do, cite a source. Cheers. --  SigPig  |SEND - OVER 16:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

It was both —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.137.86.102 (talk) 11:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Badges? We don't need no 'steenking' badges!
The article says that this is often a misquote of Alfonso Bedoya in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. That form of the quote is from Blazing Saddles, which being a parody, I presume was making fun of the line from The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. So technically it isn't being misquoted but rather people tend to quote Blazing Saddles. Maybe the comment should be tweaked to mention Blazing Saddles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danacv2 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC).

The screenshots
What was wrong with the Gone With The Wind screenshot? It's the most famous, it should be up there!


 * It is an issue of fair use criteria. The posters can only be used to represent their respective films... this is stretching it since it's more representing the AFI list than the film... gren グレン 02:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed number
Just fixed where it said Arnold Schwartzeneggar as the Terminator in The Terminator (#37) and Terminator 2: Judgment Day (#36); The terminator 2 quote is #76 as now shown in the page. Mpicco
 * Thanks for catching that. 'Twere I wot put in the wrong number. I sometimes get bug-eyed when I try to put in info like that with too little sleep. Cheers. -- Sig Pig  |SEND - OVER 05:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

pls Restore the list
List is a public domain, A user wrote to the AFI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:AFI%27s_100_Years..._100_Movies —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.101.96.148 (talk) 01:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC).

Permissions
For copyright clarification for this list, please see OTRS ticket 2007041310002766. Mak (talk)  01:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

American cinema
The AFI "100 Years..." series is about American cinema. See the first paragraph of the main page. - Sig Pig  |SEND - OVER 14:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

#8 Star Wars
"May the force be with you", is attributed to Hans Solo? I don't know for sure, but I would think either that quote would be from a different charecter, or maybe it's the wrong quote. You sure it's not "I know", when the Princess tells him she loves him before he's frozen in carbonite? I don't know, just struck me as odd, I kind of remember watching this show, but I'm not positive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.143.47 (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm going by memory here, too, but I believe the line is first spoken by Obi Wan Kenobi, although I remember hearing various rebel pilots saying it to each other as they prepare to depart for the final battle. I may be wrong about Obi Wan. He first tells us about the force, but I'm not sure he says it quite that way. I don't remember Han Solo saying the line at all. --MiguelMunoz 09:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Not sure why it's specifically attributed to Han (chuckling a bit at "Hans" Solo, I didn't know he was northern European), as many people say it throughout the movies, but he does say it to Luke shortly before the assault on the Death Star in ANH. It's definitely not another quote, as I once saw a rerun on TV of this list (albeit only from about #45 to #1, I just happened to land on it right in the middle), and I was surprised that this quote was so high. Zagen30 (talk) 08:43, 17 January 2008


 * Actually, it was not Harrison Ford as Han Solo that said the memorable line. The first to say it was Alex McCrindle as General Dodonna when he briefed the squadrons attacking the Death Star.  The info on the May the Force be with you page is incorrect, an error that may have been carried over to here by someone trying to maintain page continuity.  The ATI list does not have which actor that said it, so I am going off of what is mentioned in the quote's wiki.  I'm changing it, but if you disagree and want to stick with this, go right ahead and revert it. 24.104.128.78 (talk) 19:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I hadn't noticed that the AFI didn't attribute the quotes. For questionable attributions, we should get reliable sources.  --John (User:Jwy/talk) 20:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, they do attribute it to Han Solo: http://www.afi.com/Docs/tvevents/pdf/quotes400.pdf .  Perhaps we should add a well-referenced sentence to the misquotes section? --John (User:Jwy/talk) 20:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Han Solo does say it. Watch I know YouTube isn't reliable usually but I believe this should be an exception. JDDJS (talk) 01:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course, I would only ask for an entry in the misquotes section if he DIDN'T say it - and would only require a citation if it didn't follow the AFI. AFI is the assumed source. . . --John (User:Jwy/talk) 02:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know how long this "error" has been in the article, but I just took it out again. I see no evidence that AFI claims Ford delivered the line first (which would be an error), only that he did it most memorably (which is the AFI's focus).  --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 18:55, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm mad as hell...
The end of Peter Finch's famous line is always remembered as: "... I'm not going to take it anymore," but he never says it that way. He says "... I'm not going to take this anymore." This raises two questions: 1) Should the article quote the line as it's remembered or as it was spoken? 2) Does it even matter? Even if we correct the quote, I suspect people will read what they remember, not what is actually on the page. (I remember that, in the movie, when others repeat his mantra, they all say it the way we remember it.)

I believe Vito Corleone's famous offer isn't quoted quite they way he says it in the movie, either. I wonder how many of the quotes are remembered incorrectly. --MiguelMunoz 09:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

More Quote Articles
Am I the only one who thinks there should be more quote articles? I mean, Movie quotes like, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn," and "Go ahead, make my day," have articles. I'd like to see more articles about the origin and relevance of some of the quotes on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwhale9382 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, we have Wikiquote, which gives some exposition on quotes. bd2412  T 19:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Screenwriters?
Why no reference to them? Of all the places where they're ignored, this shouldn't be one. (although some of them were ad-libbed). EamonnPKeane (talk) 15:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Audiences don't know somebody sits down and writes a picture; they think the actors make it up as they go along. - William Holden as Joe Gillis in Sunset Blvd. :P

How is this not a copyvio?
This completely reproduces AFI's subjective compilation (albeit with the addition of substantial background information on the quotes); I am concerned about the copyright status of this list. bd2412 T 19:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have raised this as a possible problem at Copyright problems/2008 April 2/Articles. Cheers! bd2412  T 19:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * See under the permissions section above. Copyright has been resolved, I believe. TrulyBlue (talk) 21:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I do not know how to view the referenced OTRS ticket. bd2412  T 12:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I find the mere reference to an OTRS ticket unacceptable as a rationale. Copyright violations are serious issues pursued aggressively by Wikipedia these days, so we should have a public summary of why this is not a copyvio. Can we get the data about the poll that created this list? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

James Bond Necessary?
Is it really necessary to mention every movie and actor that said the phrases? If AFI said it was Sean Connery then just leave it with Sean Connery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stinger503 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, note the ratio of actors to actresses. Says a lot about how our society perceives Cinematic excellence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.206.119.240 (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

List
The list is the intellectual property of AFI and may not be reproduced in full unless they release it under GFDL, whihc I don't see any evidence they have done. Guy (Help!) 17:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * This has been discussed on this talk page twice before. I have asked a wikimedia person to check the OTRS ticket and provide a confirmation that we can use the list.  TrulyBlue (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I, as a member of Wikimedia's OTRS team am confirming that the list was released under the public domain, according to the OTRS ticket now linked at the top of this page. - Rjd0060 (talk) 20:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well there we go, thanks Rjd0060. Hope that fixes the issue permanently.  TrulyBlue (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Hasta la Vista, baby!
The listing says that 'Hasta la vista, baby!' was said by Arnold Schwarzenegger as The Terminator in T2: Judgment Day. However, it was also spoken by Edward Furlong as John Connor in said film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.1.65 (talk) 16:43, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * AFI doesn't specify the speaker in its list of winners, but does in the list of nominees - it's Schwarzenegger. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * John Conner/Edward Furlong was actually the first to say it. He teaches it to The Terminator. Below is from the wiki page Hasta la vista, baby:


 * ''John Connor: No, no, no, no. You gotta listen to the way people talk. You don't say "affirmative", or some shit like that. You say "no problemo". And if someone comes on to you with an attitude you say "eat me". And if you want to shine them on it's "hasta la vista, baby". (1:11:16-34 time of film) The Terminator: Hasta la vista, baby. (1:11:35-36)
 * The Terminator says the phrase again prior to shattering the frozen T-1000 with a gunshot:
 * The Terminator: Hasta la vista, baby. (2:04:46-48)


 * There is no set of rules of how these quotes are attributed. Like in "May the Force be with you" was first said by General Dadonna, but its attributed to Han Solo/Harrison Ford, the first principle character to say it. In this case of "Hasta la vista, baby", John Connor is certainly a priciple character, but it is so much Terminator/Arnold's line, written for him to deliver, it would be silly to attribute it to anyone else. It just a judgement call on some of these, no pun intended. Bottom line, its AFI's list so whoever they specify, we go with that. Racerx11 (talk) 03:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * In the Star Wars case, I don't think the relative importance of Dodonna and Solo as characters is relevant. What makes it appropriate to credit Ford is that his delivery comes in a much more dramatic situation, and thus is much more memorable.  Similarly here, as Schwarzenegger's delivery at the movie's climax is the most memorable occurrence of the line.  The earlier conversation between him and John Connor is simply setting up that climactic moment.  --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 18:57, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

"Distinctions" section
I have restored the "Distinctions" section that was recently deleted by Koavf. I think this is largely an editorial decision, and one that should be made by consensus. I also think that some of the information in the section is useful. Readers might benefit from knowing of the quotes originally derived from real-life, for example, and this information should also be easily sourceable. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Dead link
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--JeffGBot (talk) 22:48, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

vandalism
Someone has changed several quotes including those from Casablanca ( for example the song is not As time goes by anymore, or they don't round up the usual suspects... but black people now... we should get back to a prior version asap... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.83.235.215 (talk) 10:46, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I think people are just confusing quotes from the Special edition blu rays with the originals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.214.137 (talk) 20:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * No, there was purposeful vandalism. I've reverted back to an older version. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 01:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Did Ray Liotta really voice "The Voice"
In Field of Dreams the winning quotation is spoken by "The Voice." I know AFI's nomination document attributes the line to Shoeless Joe as portrayed by Ray Liotta, but I wonder where they get their information. The end credits of the film only say "The Voice" was played by "Himself." I've listened to the director's commentary on the DVD in the past and I don't believe that the question was answered there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.44.74.152 (talk) 22:54, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Shoeless Joe repeats it in the end while pointing out the father. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.230.102 (talk) 12:42, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The Godfather :- A lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns Nothing personal, strictly business Sonny'll come after you with everything he's got You'll never come to know what hit you You are nothing to me now You don't buy me out, I buy you out

The dark knight :- I just want my phone call Do I look like a guy with plans ? I just do things When everything goes to plan, nobody panics You know the thing about chaos ? Its fair What does not kill you makes you stranger If you are good at something, never do it for free How about a magic trick ? Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.17.191.171 (talk) 13:27, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Writers
An anon (admittedly in the wrong place - on the page itself) asked an interesting question: "How about crediting the actual writers ?" I like the idea. Thoughts? Would have to know how to handle things that were or might have been ad libbed. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 21:22, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Why So serious?
The fact that AFI didn't include the "Why so serious?" quote by The Joker on The Dark Knight movie make this list a little inaccurate. I mean Heath Ledger had a number of quotable moments on that movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkulu2901 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The fact that this survey was in 2005 and the quote (on a quick search) first appeared in 2008 MIGHT have something to do with it. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 22:23, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Real quote from Sun-tzu's The Art of War ?
I have added the "Dubious" tag to quote from Sun-tzu's The Art of War, in "Real Life Quotes" section. I have searched for the quote, or similar phrases, in the book itself (here in Gutenberg : http://www.gutenberg.org/files/132/132-h/132-h.htm ), and it doesn't appear. Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Did a bit of googling and will delete the sentence. I could find no secondary sources that seem authoritative for attributing the quote as is to Sun-tzu - my impression is that the connection is to The Art of War, III. "18. Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat." - which you can see might have contributed to the sentiment of the quote, but without a reliable source, I don't think the comment belongs here.  --John (User:Jwy/talk) 16:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Closing line?
Is this supposed to be the last line? If so, the list is wrong. "Top of the world" is Cody Jarrett's last, but it's not the last in White Heat. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)