Talk:AK-47

What about AK47 In popular culture like Video Games?
Can you expand the AK47 Page for the In popular culture like video games? Pedroj234 legos (talk) 20:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Per WP:MILPOP: "'In popular culture' sections should be avoided unless the subject has had a well-cited and notable impact on popular culture." This means we need to cite reliable, secondary, published sources that covers a particular game's impact on popular culture, not just a source that says the AK-47 was used in such and such video games. In most cases, video games aren't notable to the AK-47. What is needed is a fairly extensive article from a reliable source that examines the AK-47's impact in video games, and names several specific video games or game.series that showcase the AK-47. What we don't need is a list of every video game in which the AK-47 is seen or used, as that is not what Wikipedia is supposed to do. There are probably plenty of other websites on the Internet that do that already. BilCat (talk) 23:44, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, time to ask a "what abouty". How about listing AK-47 in various heraldics? Say, AK-47 on Mosambique's flag? 81.89.66.133 (talk) 09:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Origins - doesn't mention an earlier "avtomat" from Russian Empire
There is quite a similarity between an "avtomat" from 1940's and another "avtomat" from 1910's. Fedorov Avtomat uses 6.5mm Arisaka rounds, notorious to be weaker than 7.62 rifle rounds (2,665 J vs 3,500+ J of 7,62/.303/.30-06). How comes a Russian gun from 1910's uses Japanese rounds from 1897, you may ask? 1904-1905 war trophies!

Yet the article sorta focuses on how the Soviets were impressed by Hugo Schmeisser's Sturmgewehr, without mentioning a certain earlier automatic gun known as "avtomat" and its similarity (25-rounds box, 2,665 J energy; on par with assault rifles). The article sorta praises StG guns to be a novel and unique type of guns; that's what bothers me. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 09:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Irrelevant comment: In Russia, nickname "шмайсер" ("schmeisser") is, somewhat erroneously, used for MP-40 SMGs. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 09:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

How about we split the article?
Throughout this article, "AK-47" is used in at least three meanings:

- what Kalashnikov called "AK-47", types 1-2-3, that is - prototypes and pre-production models;

- that, plus what was the first actual production model of AK-type rifle - AKM, or simply AK, although we already have a separate article for AKM;

- or any automatic rifle from the AK family in general, although - you guessed it! - we already have a Kalashnikov rifle article.

And yeah-yeah, WP:COMMONNAME, yadda-yadda. We should lie about what "AK-47" actually is. I understand that. I totally dig that! But still, this article can't keep its lie straight. And people that want to know what exactly Kalashnikov meant by "AK-47" will be left a bit puzzled after reading it. I think that's a bit of a problem. So, how about we have two versions of this article: AK-47 (or whatever is called in Western media as such), where we could keep lying incomprehensibly for the sake of WP:COMMONNAME, and AK-47 (the real thing), for people that actually want to know something about firearms? 95.48.23.137 (talk) 15:22, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The article is only 146,023 bytes, I think it's covering it pretty well. If you have any actual constructive ideas for improvement to the existing verbiage, by all means, give them.  Dennis Brown 2&cent; 09:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

YNW Melly
The AK47 features in the lyrics of "Murder on My Mind" by YNW Melly: "I wake up in the morning, I got murder on my mind, AK-47's, MAC-11, Glocks, and .9s, And all these pussy niggas hating, tryna knock me off my grind, But I can't let 'em do it, I got murder on my mind." 86.175.165.164 (talk) 17:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

"No. Built" seems unsupported
Killicoat's "Weaponomics" declares that the '75M AK-47, 100M AK platform' data comes from the 2004 Small Arms Survey, but after searching through the survey (https://www.smallarmssurvey.org/resource/small-arms-survey-2004-rights-risk) I couldn't find any claims of specific production numbers by model. The closest statement I could find was from Chapter 1:

"Assault rifles (also known as automatic rifles) are the most numerous and effective type of infantry weapon. Few innovations have emerged over the last years, the category being dominated by the Kalashnikov series, both in 7.62x39mm and 5.45x39mm. These rifles may be encountered almost anywhere—they are manufactured in a number of countries and are in service in nearly 80 countries (see Table 1.10). It is estimated that between 70 and 100 million of these weapons have been produced since 1947"

The 100M Kalashnikovs part lines up, albeit taking the highball figure, but 75M AK-47s is entirely absent. A matching 75/100 figure does appear in the introduction of Gordon Rottman's 2011 "The AK-47," though presented as more a casual factoid than a research result. 98.170.219.238 (talk) 05:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)