Talk:APD-40/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 06:29, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * - thanks for the review! I believe I've addressed all of your comments so far. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Still need to do source and image checking. Curious @Bneu2013 as to how you got Cleveland paper. Chattanooga is one of the largest markets I haven't even written a DYK into because its paper availability is so spotty. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 07:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I now saw your remark at the bottom. Chattanooga has some TV stations that might be interesting material to write if you ever want to collaborate. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 07:51, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am very familiar with the Chattanooga TV stations, and I would like to see their articles improved. I see you have also nominated one of the Memphis stations for GA, and I'll try to take a look at it as soon as I can. Bneu2013 (talk) 08:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * - I accessed the archives in person at the Cleveland/Bradley County Public Library. They are also available at the Tennessee State Library and Archives. Full disclosure: Cleveland, TN is my hometown, and I actually have some personal knowledge about this road. My grandfather was friends with the road superintendent who requested the change at the Varnell intersection, and I know a few people whose homes were taken for this road. That's how I knew the approximate dates to look for. I was also personally a strong opponent of the new interchange and the industrial park that it serves. Bneu2013 (talk) 08:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Correction - Sorry, I must have had the city confused. Bneu2013 (talk) 08:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I had WLMT up, but right now I have no Tennessee stations at GAN. I do have stations pending in Arkansas, Alabama, North Carolina, Virginia, and Kentucky if you want to review something one state over. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 18:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Copy issues have all been fixed, and sourcing looks good. Only question is if that very confusing map can be fixed. It doesn't seem to adequately convey the actual delimitations of the 64 Byp. and 60 designations. Holding. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


 * - I agree, I would like to see it replaced with a .map file, but I don't know how to do this. I will submit a request at WT:USRD. Bneu2013 (talk) 19:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I just handled the map issue and will pass this nomination. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 19:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Lead

 * The route takes its name from its part of Corridor K of the Appalachian Development Highway System, and is sometimes called Appalachian Highway or simply the Cleveland Bypass. Remove comma. First of many WP:CINS issues.
 * The route is also designated as Veterans Memorial Highway. The US 64 Byp. section of the road is also multiplexed with unsigned State Route 311 (SR 311) and US 74. A lot of "also"s.
 * - cut second one. Bneu2013 (talk) 06:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The road is a four-lane divided highway its entire length and parts are controlled-access. The bypass is an east-west route and the state route is a north-south. Each of these sentences needs a comma added before "and".
 * The road is a four-lane divided highway its entire length and parts are controlled-access. The bypass is an east-west route and the state route is a north-south. Each of these sentences needs a comma added before "and".

Route description

 * Beginning as controlled-access, it rounds a minor curve to the southeast and enters a long straightaway on the edge of the city limits of Cleveland, and comes to an interchange first with the Cherokee Gateway and then US 11/US 64 (South Lee Highway) approximately 1.5 miles (2.4 km) later. Split this sentence after "city limits of Cleveland".
 * It then crosses Lead Mine Ridge, junctions at an interchange with Blue Springs Road, a connector to Red Clay State Historic Park in southern Bradley County, and crosses another Norfolk Southern railroad. A list entry with a comma requires semicolons to delimit the list. It then crosses Lead Mine Ridge; junctions at an interchange with Blue Springs Road, a connector to Red Clay State Historic Park in southern Bradley County; and crosses another Norfolk Southern railroad.
 * The road intersects with US 11 (Ocoee Street) about 1/2 mile (0.80 km) later, and I-75 a few miles beyond this point, continuing north eventually to Dayton Remove the first comma.
 * The road intersects with US 11 (Ocoee Street) about 1/2 mile (0.80 km) later, and I-75 a few miles beyond this point, continuing north eventually to Dayton Remove the first comma.
 * The road intersects with US 11 (Ocoee Street) about 1/2 mile (0.80 km) later, and I-75 a few miles beyond this point, continuing north eventually to Dayton Remove the first comma.

History

 * The initial plans for I-75 in Cleveland included two interchanges; one with a connector to US 11/64 southwest of the city and another with SR 60 to near what was then the northwestern city limits. That should be a semicolon. Remove "to" after "60"
 * ✅ - if I'm not mistaken, you are saying to leave the existing semicolon? Bneu2013 (talk) 07:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I meant to say that should be a colon. Oops. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 07:50, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * with the former an entirely new road, and the latter a widening and relocation of SR 60 Remove comma
 * A predecessor project to APD-40 was the construction of the four-lane alignment of SR 60 (25th Street) from north of I-75 to the US 11 Bypass (Keith Street) between 1963 and 1965, and the widening of 25th Street between the US 11 Bypass and US 11 (Ocoee Street) from 1968 to 1969. That's two projects. Two projects preceded APD-40: the construction four-lane alignment of SR 60 (25th Street) from north of I-75 to the US 11 Bypass (Keith Street) between 1963 and 1965 and the widening of 25th Street between the US 11 Bypass and US 11 (Ocoee Street) from 1968 to 1969.
 * These residents had argued the shift would be more beneficial to their communities, and believed that the proposed location was impractical since it was in an area that was sparsely populated at the time Remove comma
 * extension of to US 64 typo
 * The interchange continued to see frequent accidents, and in 1985, was improved in a project that constructed new turn lanes and added a traffic signal. Some commas need reordering. The interchange continued to see frequent accidents and, in 1985, was improved in a project that constructed new turn lanes and added a traffic signal.
 * ✅ - also fixed an inaccuracy - this is an intersection, not an interchange. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The original route narrowed at the interchange, and crossed the Interstate on a two-lane bridge, which had come to experience backups at nearly all times during the day. Remove the first comma.
 * Without a number, should it be "the Interstate" or "the interstate"? I'd think the latter.
 * If it is a highway that is part of the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways (a proper name), then we use the capitalized form to distinguish between any highway that crosses state lines. By this definition, I-75 is an Interstate Highway, while US 64 is an interstate highway. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ...past the interchange with I-75 and went directly to downtown, but was moved to 25th Street NW in the mid-1960s after being widened, and the section of APD-40 to US 64 after opening. These commas do not belong, but the sentence is too long otherwise. SR 60 originally turned south about 1⁄4 mile (400 m) past the interchange with I-75 and went directly to downtown; it was moved to 25th Street NW in the mid-1960s after that road was widened and again to the section of APD-40 to US 64 after opening.
 * - please let me know what you think of my changes. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * In September 2018, the I-75 interchange was named the "Representative Kevin Brooks Interchange" after a long time state representative who succeeded Rowland as mayor of Cleveland. As an adjective, "longtime" is one word.
 * Without a number, should it be "the Interstate" or "the interstate"? I'd think the latter.
 * If it is a highway that is part of the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways (a proper name), then we use the capitalized form to distinguish between any highway that crosses state lines. By this definition, I-75 is an Interstate Highway, while US 64 is an interstate highway. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ...past the interchange with I-75 and went directly to downtown, but was moved to 25th Street NW in the mid-1960s after being widened, and the section of APD-40 to US 64 after opening. These commas do not belong, but the sentence is too long otherwise. SR 60 originally turned south about 1⁄4 mile (400 m) past the interchange with I-75 and went directly to downtown; it was moved to 25th Street NW in the mid-1960s after that road was widened and again to the section of APD-40 to US 64 after opening.
 * - please let me know what you think of my changes. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:26, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * In September 2018, the I-75 interchange was named the "Representative Kevin Brooks Interchange" after a long time state representative who succeeded Rowland as mayor of Cleveland. As an adjective, "longtime" is one word.
 * In September 2018, the I-75 interchange was named the "Representative Kevin Brooks Interchange" after a long time state representative who succeeded Rowland as mayor of Cleveland. As an adjective, "longtime" is one word.

Sourcing and spot checks

 * 7: This covers the route description, which presumably would have been based on the map. ✅
 * 9: Page 1 mentions the need for diversion around central Cleveland. The cover page lists the approval date of December 20, 1971, for the EIS. Page 2 also mentions "the proposed State Route 60 Bypass". ✅
 * 18: AGF on this offline newspaper source.
 * 22: AGF on this offline newspaper source.
 * 27: AGF on this offline newspaper source.
 * 38: “There is a lot of confusion that the Harriman Road connection is tied directly to the industrial park,” Farlow said. “The connection to Harriman Road is because of the interchange that is being built on APD 40 and TDOT’s requirement that you have local interstate connectors that have to connect to certain roads.” The new interchange is being built to open up the southeast quadrant of APD 40 and Interstate 75 to commercial development. The local interstate connector road is needed to gain more access to the industrial park, but not to Harriman Road. This checks out. (Thanks NewsBank) ✅

Unfortunately, Cleveland Daily Banner articles from before 1998 are not available online. I had to personally access these on microfilm at a library (and was lucky to find them). I've added a paywalled link to citation 38, as I could not find an archived url for it. Citation 7 is available online, and I'm not sure what the issue is with citation 9. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * 9 works. The numbers were random selections for spot checks. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 18:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * FYI, in case you are curious, someone posted a copy of citation 24 in this Facebook group a while back (I don't know if you're able to access or not), although they got the date wrong by a week. Bneu2013 (talk) 19:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Images
The images are fine, except for the map, which while correctly licensed is frankly confusing. The overlap is a lot simpler than conveyed here. Is there a way to replace the map image with a KML or more useful or accurate map? Encouragement: Add alt text.
 * I have submitted a request to replace the map with [Data:APD-40.map, as I do not know how to do this myself. [[User:Bneu2013|Bneu2013]] (talk) 19:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)