Talk:ASP pistol

What does ASP stand for?
When seaching for this article by typing in "asp", wikipedia redirects you to disambg page implying that the name of the gun is an acronym, yet there is no mention of what ASP stands for in the article. I can't find any references, but I believe that ASP stands for Advanced Sighting Plane. Should it be added?

Dicejordan42 08:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I (Lane Lombardia) wrote up what I know of the ASP 9mm handgun and posted it as an "ASP (handgun)/Temp" article. I welcome any enhancements to what I've written. This is too precious and special an item to not have a wikipedia article due to a copyright issue. Consequently, I've submitted what is (typos and all) a wholly original work.

The internet source listed appears to be a wikipedia mirror, and thus this article is not a copyright vio of it. Sapient 22:20, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Was this weapon designed and manufacturered by Armorment Systems and Procedures of Wisconsin, the folks behind the ASP Tactical Baton? Pyrogen 05:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No, as the article indicates, it was manufactured by Seventrees and Paris Theodore. I don't think ASP in Wisconsin existed early 1970s.  Georgewilliamherbert 06:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm having a hard time understanding this statement: "It is regarded as safe for handling, but not for use in cooking appliances and utensils. " I was going to remove it, but I felt I should get an explanation as to what "IT" is refering to before just mucking up an article.


 * You should sign your comments on talk pages using the ~ four ~ characters.
 * Responding to your question... it is referring to Teflon-S, which is a bake-on industrial coating (see for example ). Georgewilliamherbert 07:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I think I can answer some of the questions asked above. I had built and still own #11 of Lot#1 of the first ASP's that were sold to the law enforcement community, outside goverment purchase orders. My sales invoice, which is dated 21 July 1981, is from Armament Systems and Procedures, Inc., Appleton, Wisconsin. I sent in a check and my old S&M 39-2 and nine months later they sent me back an ASP conversion. They were done in lots of 20 guns. It took a while for that many guns to come in as at that time this was a very expensive conversion. The November/December 1979 edition of The American Handgunner magazine featured the ASP on the cover. The gun came with three cut down magazines, a magnetic double magazine holder and you could order both belt slide holsters and ankle holsters for it. And yes, this is the company that went on to build the ASP baton. DustyDreamer 04:12, 6 October 2007 (UTC) DustyDreamer DustyDreamer 04:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC) DustyDreamer

DustyDreamer —Preceding unsigned comment added by DustyDreamer (talk • contribs) 04:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

ASP2000
I can't seem to find any mention of the ASP2000 that is not copied from/does not link back to this website about it from 2004 (http://www.asp9mm.com/). I'm curious to see if there is any further evidence that this pistol exists, and in what form. Otherwise, it's existence doesn't seem to be verifiable. 24.121.188.230 (talk) 08:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The ASP 2000 is not an actual ASP, but a new customisation based on the ASP design, but not by ASP. About 50 were made; production has halted because the armourer got cancer. See here: asp2000.webeden.co.uk/links-contact — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.114.146.117 (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

the ending is ridicilous
"The ASP 2000 draws upon the old ASP's specifications and takes them several steps further, making it the reliable custom combat weapon that it was first supposed to be. The base gun is now the Smith and Wesson 3913, which is a fine pistol in its own right. The ASP 2000 also draws upon innovations from Charles Kelsey's Devel range of pistols. The outward appearance of the new ASP is only 40% of the story. The internals have been worked upon the most to create a design flawless in operation with virtually any 9mm ammunition."

this definitely doesn't belong in wikipedia, more like an ad.

I would flag the article for something but have no clue how

Nappateemu (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:20, 7 December 2010 (UTC).
 * I have rewritten this piece based on published, reliable sources. The latest copy was pretty bad.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 18:30, 8 December 2010 (UTC)