Talk:A Boy with a Flying Squirrel/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 07:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Happy to review the article.

Lead section/infobox

 * Expanded to some 140 words. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Expanded to some 140 words. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Link exhibition. ✅
 * I fail to see how the word "exhibition" is not MOS:OL. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy to concur. AM
 * Happy to concur. AM



1 Background

 * Sorry, didn't catch the "name in full" part. Done. --GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:22, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't catch the "name in full" part. Done. --GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:22, 28 June 2021 (UTC)



2 Description

 * I omitted the "Lockean education" aspect since I feel it would be going on quite an irrelevant tangent to explain what exactly "Lockean education" means to unfamiliar readers (and to be honest, I don't really understand what it is either). I did include the refinement/civilizing part though in Background. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 18:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep, I guessed that, no worries as far as I'm concerned. Amitchell125 (talk) 18:27, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I omitted the "Lockean education" aspect since I feel it would be going on quite an irrelevant tangent to explain what exactly "Lockean education" means to unfamiliar readers (and to be honest, I don't really understand what it is either). I did include the refinement/civilizing part though in Background. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 18:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep, I guessed that, no worries as far as I'm concerned. Amitchell125 (talk) 18:27, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Roberts (2014) p. 16 – no mention of her (unorthodox?) view of the work as a marine painting. ✅
 * Um, this seems to be a rather odd analogy, which I think is really meant to emphasize the "transportation" aspect of the painting, which is already summarized/covered in the History section. I feel like this is best left out as it seems more of an interesting device Roberts uses to support her analysis. Besides, Roberts clarifies that she didn't really mean the painting to be a "maritime" painting in the sense that it depicts seascapes or ships, but I still see the potential for confusion if incorporated in the article. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Understood. AM


 * Added to the Significance section GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Added to the Significance section GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

More comments to follow. Amitchell125 (talk) 15:14, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

3.1 Transatlantic crossing

 * mercantile aesthetic negotiators – is this an actual term used in the literature, or just a term coined by Roberts? ✅
 * This is the term used by Roberts. I'm not really sure what this is equivalent to in common parlance. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I strongly suspect there isn't one, and don't see why a team of mercantile aesthetic negotiators shouldn't be simplified to 'a team'. Amitchell125 (talk) 06:15, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * All right, done. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * All right, done. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

3.2 Reception

 * Link exhibition. ✅
 * See above GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Understood. AM


 * one of Copley's most significant works – some editors avoid significant as it’s often unclear if anything is being signified. Is there a better word that could be used? 	✅
 * I guess "important" works (which is what I substituted for now), since it doesn't suggest anything being signified, but Wilmerding uses the phrase "significant milestone" in his assessment of the painting. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks better now, thanks for replacing an ambiguous term. AM


 * Rebora et al. refers to him as S.G.W. Benjamin, so I'll use that as well. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Rebora et al. refers to him as S.G.W. Benjamin, so I'll use that as well. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Rebora et al. refers to him as S.G.W. Benjamin, so I'll use that as well. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I linked it "devotional picture" to Christian art, which should hopefully clear things up. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I linked it "devotional picture" to Christian art, which should hopefully clear things up. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I linked it "devotional picture" to Christian art, which should hopefully clear things up. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I linked it "devotional picture" to Christian art, which should hopefully clear things up. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

3.4 Provenance and exhibition

 * Whoops, struck that by accident. Done now. --GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:22, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Whoops, struck that by accident. Done now. --GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:22, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

4 References

 * Ref 1 is taken from this, so I would replace the source. ✅
 * Yes, archive.org is generally a more stable source than google books. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, archive.org is generally a more stable source than google books. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, archive.org is generally a more stable source than google books. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:35, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Final comment

 * Further reading or inclusion in the article? ✅
 * 1) Prown - https://archive.org/details/artasevidencewri0000prow/page/156/mode/2up?q=squirrel
 * 2) Massachusetts Historical Society - https://archive.org/details/lettersandpaper00pelhgoog/page/n74/mode/2up?q=squirrel

On hold
I'm putting the article on hold for a week until 5 July to allow time for the issues raised to be addressed. An interesting read! Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 15:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your thorough GAC review! I did my best to address your comments, and please let me know if there's more I can do. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 22:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Passing now, as the article is in good shape. Well done! Amitchell125 (talk) 17:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)