Talk:A Christmas Carol (2009 film)

Cast list
Is that really necessary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.246.35 (talk) 08:00, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

US production but...
The film is an American production of course but there are examples of US English used instead of the culturally and historically accurate UK English. Dickens' story is set in 19th century England with a set of largely English/British characters who would never have used US English. We all know the reason for this, don't we? The film's director will spout the excuse as being that American viewers would simply not understand some elements of British English and its terms etc. No excuse whatsoever in my book. UK audiences have for decades grown to understand US terms etc. If US viewers get a little confused well then, tough, let them learn that there are other versions of our common language apart the one spoken by Uncle Sam. After all, us ‘limeys’ ‘invented’ the language.


 * The word 'clerk' was uttered in US parlance as 'clurk' instead of the UK pronunciation 'clark'.
 * The US Christmas expression 'Happy Holidays' was also included. This would never have been used in the UK and even less so in Dickens' time.

I do wish productions like this would stay faithful to their original dialogue. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.115.4 (talk) 20:15, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Edit war
and have an edit war brewing. This is the disputed material. Neither on has said anything about why it should or shouldn't be included.

Discuss. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 23:40, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Plot summary
Over the past few days, there have been some disagreements between myself and on how we should detail the article's plot summary. I think the previous descriptions were a little too much and we should not list every single detail as per WP:FILMPLOT. For example, at the end of the sequence with Scrooge and the Ghost of Christmas Past, the important part is that he returns home after snuffing out the Ghost; the means (rocketing back home), not so much. Given that, what should we do with the summary rewrites?

Rather than repeatedly get involved in a WP:EDITWAR, I'm taking this discussion here to see what others think per WP:BRD. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would agree the current version reads better, the altered version starts with a grammatical error "On Victoria era London" instead of "In", but there are some changes I'd suggest:
 * "His loyal employee Bob Cratchit asks Scrooge to take Christmas Day off so he can spend time with his family, to which Scrooge reluctantly agrees." to me, this reads like he is asking Scrooge to be the one taking a day off to spend time with his family. Would suggest "His loyal employee Bob Cratchit requests to not work on Christmas Day so he can spend time with his family, to which Scrooge reluctantly agrees."
 * "Scrooge meets a young woman named Belle, with whom he falls in love but lost as he chooses money over her. Seeing this, a devastated Scrooge extinguishes the Ghost and returns home." I read this as switching tenses, would recommend "The young Scrooge meets a young woman named Belle, with whom he falls in love, but his focus on accruing wealth drives them apart." I'd also maybe change "Extinguishes the ghost" to "extinguishes the ghost's flame"
 * "Scrooge next meets the merry Ghost of Christmas Present, who shows how others find joy on Christmas Day. Scrooge and the Ghost visit Bob's house, learning his family is content with their small dinner, and Scrooge starts to take pity on Bob's ill son Tiny Tim, whom the ageing Ghost comments might not survive until next Christmas." -> "Scrooge next meets the merry Ghost of Christmas Present, who shows how others find joy on Christmas Day. Scrooge and the Ghost visit Bob's house, learning his family is content with their small dinner and meagre home (or something similar, just emphasise they're poor basically) FULLSTOP Scrooge starts to take pity on Bob's ill son Tiny Tim, whom the rapidly? (I can't tell if you mean old or he's actively ageing) ageing Ghost comments might not survive until next Christmas."
 * "After being chased across London, " by whom?
 * "Desperately vowing to change his ways while falling into his empty coffin, Scrooge finds himself back in his bedroom." -> "Scrooged desperately vows to change his ways before stumbling into his empty coffin and finding himself returned to his bedroom in the present."
 * "Scrooge becomes a father figure to Tiny Tim, who escapes death, " a bit savage, maybe "Scrooge becomes a father figure to Tiny Tim, who overcomes his ailments and is restored to health"?
 * I haven't watched this film so this is from an outsider's perspective Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)