Talk:A Hard Day's Night (album)

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I am missing here a producer of such musical albums. I guess the Beatles weren't producers of their own albums. By chance I own one original of this particular LP.

It is written on it: Produced for records by George Martin E.M.I. Records Limited | THE PARLOPHONE Co., Ltd. LSPAR-70807 (PCS 3058) 1964 + Jugoton (former Yugoslav gramophone undertaking :) Best regards. -- XJamRastafire 16:17 Aug 22, 2002 (PDT)

Some of my disks don't list all the credits (yes, they're legal--part of a boxed set), so any information like that you want to add to the articles, please do.

How to play ogg-files? Patrick 02:29 Dec 17, 2002 (UTC)


 * I use Winamp v2 (I don't like v3, but that works as well, after a fashion) --Camembert
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 * Thanks, Winamp works fine. Patrick 03:50 Dec 17, 2002 (UTC)

Actually the All Music Guide gives this five stars. The three star review is for the truncated American version that is no longer in print. Syncrolecyne

Shouldn't the movie and the album be different wikipedia entries? --Samuel Wantman 07:55, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Second paragraph begins with "The album rocks.". Erm, while I concur heartily, this is an encyclopedia, not a Beatles fanpage (God knows there's enough of those...), and as such I am being bold and changing it to something less POV. Lost Number 03:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Lyrics Links
The following discussion was posted on Wikipedia's main Beatles discussion page, and appears to also be relevant here:

Are links to lyrics sites appropriate? I have noticed them in some music articles, and I believe they do add value to the listings. I added one at the bottom of the external links section. In the interest of full disclosure, it is a website I maintain. If the interest is positive, I would likely add lyrics links to other musical articles where appropriate. Shadar 19:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * My understanding is that lyrics sites reprint lyrics in violation of copyright, and that's why we're not supposed to link to them. The relevant guideline to check would be External links, but that page doesn't directly address this question.  I'm going to post a question to the discussion page there, and perhaps someone can tell us whether my idea is correct or mistaken.  In the latter case, I'd be happy to restore the link myself. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I posted my question Wikipedia talk:External links. -GTBacchus(talk) 19:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * If the decision is made that lyrics sites are inappropriate due to the copyright violation issue, I would like to delete the links I found. As a newbie, it would give me good practice in editting. Is that an appropriate action for a new user, and is there a FAQ on deletion etiquette? Shadar 19:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, we received an answer, and it refers us to item #2 at External links. It comes down to whether the lyrics are actually under copyright or in the public domain, and whether or not the site in question has the copyright holder's permission to publish the lyrics.  If you'd like to remove links to lyrics sites that are in violation of our copyright policy, then you're welcome to do so.  The best way to avoid offense is probably to mention the External links policy (or WP:EL, as we like to call it) in your edit summary. -GTBacchus(talk) 20:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I can certainly understand that decision. It turns out I violated the self interest clause anyways, since I posted my own site. I should have recommended the change in talk, and then if someone agreed they could make the change. Thanks for the help with this, GTBacchus. Shadar 17:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I notice that there are also links to lyric pages on each of the Wikipedia Beatles album pages. I should have time to fix those tonight. I'll follow the above advice of GTBacchus in mentioning the WP:EL, and refer to this discussion on each album discussion page. InnerRevolution7 02:57, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I have made the above-stated change. InnerRevolution7 03:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

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Track listing.
It's well documented that 1964 was a Lennon-dominated year -- especially when songwriting was concerned -- but if you read McCartney's book 'Many Years From Now', AS WELL as reading the John Lennon interviews, you'll find that McCartney refers to 'I'm Happy Just To dance With You' as 50/50 co-written, and also claims to have had a hand on 'If I Fell' and 'I'll Be Back'.

Of course, Lennon claims to have had a hand on 'And I Love Her', but McCartney downplays Lennon's role on that one.

Simply accepting Lennon's comments as the comlete truth, and thereby just giving him main ownership on 10 of 13 song, feels a bit unbalanced to me, considering there are differing comments from McCartney. It seems to me, in reality, that seven out of thirteen songs were entirely Lennon's, two were entirely McCartney's, and four were in some form co-written.

It has to be said, though; 'A Hard Day's Night' is still very much a Lennon-dominated album, at least in quantity.--84.208.240.143 (talk) 18:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I have now changed the wording myself. I found that 'Lennon wrote the majority of the 13 songs on the album on his own', would be an undisputed claim, even if you were to regard McCartney's account as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Mentioning an exact number(10) is more problematic, as John's and Paul's accounts do conflict on certain songs, and McCartney is clearly regarding 'I'm Happy Just To Dance with You' as an equal effort. --84.208.224.234 (talk) 08:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe I read/hared on Beatles anthology that A hard day's night when meant to have 14 tracks (as normal with Beatles and other artist’s albums at this time). The 14th song when never properly recorded due to one member being ill at the last planned recording session when that song was to be recorded. If this is true I believe it should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.65.247 (talk) 16:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Only if there are verifiable citations to back up that info. Steelbeard1 (talk) 16:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I feel it is reliable enough citation to be placed in the artical and have now included it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.65.247 (talk) 21:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Side two of original British album
The unsourced edit made by an anonymous poster conflicts with the original British album's liner notes which reflect the fact that side two of the album contains tracks which were written for, but not included in the film. The quote follows: '''It became apparent that no more than six songs should be introduced via the soundtrack of the film. To increase this number would have left insufficient screen-time for the action of the plot. On the other hand it seemed most unfair to hold back the remainder of the boys' new songs when each one was of such excellent quality. Eventually the decision was made to record all the material which John and Paul had written and include the extra titles on the second side of the album.''' Steelbeard1 (talk) 02:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

scaruffi
he's no longer on the professional list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums, so we can kick his review out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.196.255.43 (talk) 21:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Genres
I think that the genres should be rock and rock and roll. All of the songs on the album seem to fall into either or both of those genres. --John of Lancaster (talk) 16:49, 10 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I think rock and pop sum it up nicer. Rock and roll is just a sub-genre of these two and its applicability could be questionable.  McLerristarr &#124;  Mclay1  10:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I think, the genre must be Rock by default. Or "Rock, rock'n'roll". --93.80.253.98 (talk) 15:17, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


 * We should be pointing to reliable sources for genre. Binksternet (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Singles
Why is "Can't Buy Me Love" being deleted from the singles list in the infobox? It was a single from the album. Yes, it was a single before it was on the album but the guideline given in the latest edit summary does not mention this situation at all.  McLerristarr &#124;  Mclay1  06:25, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * 'Can't Buy Me Love' was released four months before the album; it was not released to promote the album, because there was no album to promote in March of 1964.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  15:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)


 * But the guideline you cited does not say anything about that. It's still a single that was included on the album. Every similar album infobox I've seen includes singles released before the album.  McLerristarr &#124;  Mclay1  18:37, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

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Chronology?
The article shows United States and North American chronology boxes, but not UK? I don't know if I can fix that! Apepper (talk) 15:38, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Hard Day's Night
I am clarifying the point here. Technically these are Lennon/ McCartney songs but when you detail the facts, song by song, you will see that Lennon was the author of 10 of the 13. This is well known and authenticated. I am not happy with your re-writing. The facts are the facts and were not made clear in the article. Lennonfan1 (talk) 12:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lennon's authorship is already covered in the Contents section.  freshacconci  (✉) 12:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)