Talk:A Moon Shaped Pool/Archive 1

Track 10 song title: Tailer vs. Tailor
Official band website clearly uses former spelling ("Tailer"), while all other outlets use latter ("Tailor"). Admittedly, the latter spelling does make much more sense, although tailer is an English word according to some dictionaries. Until actual physical product manifests circa June 17, I'd tend to go with the former spelling since that is exactly how it is listed on the band's official website. Please note as well that the title of track 5 also has a counter-intuitively and intentionally 'misspelled' word ("Ful" vs. "Full"). Wikieditor0611 (talk) 03:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to agree, especially with Radiohead's track record of non-standard spellings (see also "Packt Like Sardines"). It might still yet turn out to be a typo, but let's wait to see if it changes. Popcornduff (talk) 06:54, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm, having said that, the MP3 metadata, purchased directly from Radiohead, says "tailor". Popcornduff (talk) 16:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * In addition, I see now that the spelling on the band site has been changed/corrected to "Tailor". That should settle it! Wikieditor0611 (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Genre classification
This album in question has six genres at least in my eyes, which I would like to discuss here. Those being Art rock, Ambient, electronica, Progressive rock, Post-rock, and Symphonic rock. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TakyonDrive (talk • contribs) 18:32, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added art rock and psychedelic folk with sources already. I think only art rock, ambient, and electronic, out of the ones you listed, fit the album. I think chamber pop fits the album instead of symphonic rock, though. Anyone else have any thoughts about this? Aria1561 (talk) 02:23, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There are traces of Sigur Ros all over the album, who are Post-rock and ambient, which should probably go on there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TakyonDrive (talk • contribs) 05:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Um, we need sources for any claims of genre we add. Popcornduff (talk) 07:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * We can have a consensus, too. Not every review will call an album a genre that is obviously featured in it. Aria1561 (talk) 19:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no. · &#124; (talk - contributions) 16:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Present Tense in 2008 or 2009
So, I'm a bit torn on this edit. Technically this is correct, because "Present Tense" was soundchecked in 2008, but the source that we're currently using would have to be changed - the Paste review only mentions the Thom Yorke solo performance in 2009 when talking about the origins of "Present Tense". We could either Would like to hear some other opinions on what we should do here. HKraemer73 (talk) 10:54, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * keep it at 2008 and find a source that confirms this (e.g. Pitchfork, FACT Magazine), or
 * revert this to 2009 (the Yorke solo performance) and keep the same source (Paste).
 * Great spot. Why not use both sources and both dates? I've made the edit accordingly. Popcornduff (talk) 12:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Psychedelic folk?
There seems to be a bit of a spat regarding whether the album is psychedelic folk, so I figured that I'd make this section. · &#124; (talk - contributions) 18:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * "in a way, “A Moon Shaped Pool” is Radiohead’s psych-folk album." I don't have to stress it any further. Aria1561 (talk) 19:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I haven't read the source, but you do have to frame that excerpt into context: "in a way" indicates something other than "it is". · &#124; (talk - contributions) 20:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that the "in a way" makes this a less useful source for that claim. Popcornduff (talk) 01:22, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Production credits
There are detailed production credits here: http://www.91x.com/uncategorized/hear-radioheads-new-albuma-moon-shaped-pool-at-11pm-tonight-on-the-ftw-new-music-show/

Looks legit to me, but what do other editors think? Can we trust this source? Popcornduff (talk) 10:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * They haven't cited where they got it from. I mean, the site and information looks genuine, but that's a bit of a detraction. · &#124; (talk - contributions) 14:56, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Several articles have mentioned the London Contemporary Orchestra and named its composer, and mentioned Deamer, suggesting there was some sort of press release sent out to journalists, or something - probably where this same article got its facts. Hmm. Popcornduff (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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Style of the track listing
I propose changing the track listing to use the tracklist template. The motivation is that it would look more orderly and professional and it would be easier to read because lengths of songs would be aligned and start from the same position. Some time ago I made this change to the track listing but today it has been reverted. I don't see any reason for this undo. Ciszek (talk) 21:19, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Label LLLP LLP
On my copy of AMSP it says as a label "LLLP LLP under exclusive license to XL recordings". I added LLLP LLP twice as a label, and twice it was removed, once with the remark "that is not the actual label". I have no intention to start a edit war, so what are the arguments not to include "LLLP LLP" as their label? Why is it "not their actual label" ? I note that TKOL RMX 1234567, TKOL and IR all have Ticker Tape or Xurbia Xendless mentioned as their label in addition to XL. What would be different this time? Merijn2 (talk) 14:54, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * On Discogs, it said that LLLP LLP was the copyright holder and not the label. I'd assume that your copy has the copyright symbol © before "LLLP LLP", which refers to the copyright holder and not the label. Usually, the label's logo/picture is on the back or front side of the case. Looking at the images of the Discogs source you provided in your edit, it seems as though only XL Recordings and S Music have their logos only, on the back-side of the case. Aria1561 (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I think this article has more information on that: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/29/radiohead-corporate-structure-firms Tjdrum2000 (talk) 23:03, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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La Fabrique september 2014 or 2015
The article states that they started working in La Fabrique in 2014. However, the source for this claim establishes that they worked in La Fabrique in 2015 (it states that the author visited them there 3 years after their concert in Nîmes, which was in July 2012), but not in 2014. In fact, I am quite sure that they weren't in France in 2014, since I think that on Nigel's private instagram page (now set to private so I can't check it) all photos from southern France are from 2015 Merijn2 (talk) 23:30, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Great spot, thank you. Popcornduff (talk) 00:26, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Other genres?
I don't feel like it's right to just leave it at simply "art rock". Should we add these genres to the infobox? I have citations for them for you to look them over.


 * Electronic rock (reference: https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/05/album-review-radiohead-a-moon-shaped-pool/)
 * Alternative rock (references: http://arcticdrones.com/reviews/radiohead-a-moon-shaped-pool/, https://boomkat.com/products/a-moon-shaped-pool, http://www.theguardianonline.com/wright-life/2016/06/10/music-review-a-moon-shaped-pool-by-radiohead/, http://www.bullmoose.com/p/22654850/radiohead-moon-shaped-pool-white-vinyl-2lp)
 * Experimental rock (reference: http://www.prettyneatgrooves.com/a-moon-shaped-pool-radiohead/)

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