Talk:A World Out of Time

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I finished reading this book last week, noticed that there was no Wikipedia entry yet, then two days later Nickaubert creates one. Ain't Wikipedia something?! Coyote-37 10:17, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Same universe as INTEGRAL TREES?
This novel is apparently set in the same universe as Niven's novel The Integral Trees and its sequel, though about the only connection between A World Out of Time and The Integral Trees is that the ship that brought the humans to the Smoke Ring ages before has the same sort of AI, known as a Checker, running it, and that the ship clearly came from the same sort of totalitarian government as described in World (since at one point, the Checker preaches the gospel of communism to the people it comes in contact with)... though in this case the ship clearly isn't a seeder ship...

In fact, digging through the article The Integral Trees I see that book listed in the box on the right as "preceded by..." A World Out of Time...

It would probably be worth adding a link to that page and mentioning that this book is set in the same universe.

---Nomad Of Norad 22:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Good point, I added this in the trivia section. Perhaps it should be in the intro, but it seems ok where it is. Maury 17:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


 * No offense but this sounds like "original research." Has Niven identified these 3 novels as being at all related? If not, this is speculation and should be removed. Ukrpickaxe (talk) 05:18, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Niven's universes are as large and varied as Azimov's. Niven never tells a complete story, only just complete enough. He writes in cliffhangers and edits out details forcing the reader to use his or her own imagination to complete the story. (It's in the notes to one of the story collections) Azimov lived long enough to connect all the dots in all his stories and eventually ran out of ideas. Azimov states this in GOLD. Niven deliberately does not want to box himself in, and allows the reader to add to his stories as long as they dont violate his copyrights. Niven states this in the notes for Ringworld Engineers and Throne which could not have been written without the help of schoolchildren and MIT engineers who took the Ring as fact. My point being, they are all the same Universe and parallel at the same time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.179.30.13 (talk) 08:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 11:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

wipe out?
The plot summarize ends by saying that Corbell tends to "wipe out" the Boys. There is no mention of that in the novel. His plan was to liberate the dikta and keep the Boys at bay with the State weapons. Of course this would prevent the Boys from creating future Boys and lead to their eventual dying out, but that is scarcely the same thing. CharlesTheBold 03:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

From where did the plot review get Saturn? The engine controlled the planet Uranus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.141.124.50 (talk) 23:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I have to say, that although it's been some time since I read this book, a great deal of the plot summary is wrong. The point of the plot is that Earth's moon has been ejected from its orbit and is going to return and hit the Earth, wiping everything out, and Corbell, as he learns about the Earth 3 million years in his future, discovers that there is a way to deflect the moon. Also, the Girls are not extinct, but they live separately from the Boys, also in tribes, and the Boys and Girls who are best at surviving give up their immortality, join the ditka, mature, and create new Boys and Girls. 72.179.53.2 (talk) 20:23, 13 August 2012 (UTC) Eric


 * Must be quite some time, because the previous poster seems to be confusing this with another novel. There is no mention of the moon (aside from it being lost) no surviving Girls, no talk of reconciliation between the groups.  The plot summary is rather disorganized (as is the novel) but basically accurate.  CharlesTheBold (talk) 03:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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