Talk:Aaron Hawkins (engineer)

Requested move 23 October 2019

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to moved 1st: Aaron Hawkins → Aaron Hawkins (engineer); but not moved 2nd: Aaron Hawkins (politician) → Aaron Hawkins. As there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Aaron Hawkins. Created dab at Aaron Hawkins. comrade waddie96 ★ (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

– This is a swap in primary topic. As per WP:ONEOTHER, we don't need a disambiguation page when there are two articles for one base name and one of the articles is the primary topic. The politician has now become mayor of a reasonable-size city and that changes as to which article is the primary topic.  Schwede 66  19:00, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Aaron Hawkins → Aaron Hawkins (engineer)
 * Aaron Hawkins (politician) → Aaron Hawkins
 * Support. Grutness... wha?   23:09, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Support 1st, but OPPOSE 2nd. Primary topic swaps are a mess to deal with. For now, it's safest to have a disambiguation page at the basename, per WP:TWODABS like John Quested. Paintspot Infez (talk) 15:14, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Support 1st since clearly not primary by page views but unsure on the 2nd per Paintspot, it might indeed be better to have a DAB at the base name.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:46, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Support both moves. I admittedly would prefer waiting here since his new role is so recent and therefore guiding the views right now, but the numbers here are low enough for the engineer that a TWODABS with primary situation makes sense.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:04, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Support both, page views data clearly show the mayor being the primary topic. Kiwichris (talk) 08:17, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Support 1st but Oppose 2nd per Paintspot Infez and Crouch, Swale. No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 06:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose as written. Move the engineer to the red link title (no RM needed) and create a disambiguation page behind him. Do not move the politician. ―cobaltcigs 06:42, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Support 1st, Oppose 2nd. No primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:45, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article on Aaron Hawkins the engineer has been nominated for deletion.  Calidum   20:03, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment for closing admin: can I suggest that we park this move request while this AfD sorts itself out. Looks like a clear 'keep' to me and if so, this move request can just carry on when that AfD closes.  Schwede 66  03:00, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * AfD is done. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:07, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support 1st, oppose 2nd. I don't think the case for PRIMARYTOPIC is clear-cut enough to favor one over the other. An alternative target for the 1st move would be Aaron R. Hawkins, but we would still need a dab page rather than moving the other article into the un-initialed name. Whoever does this move should be careful to also move all of the incoming links as the other changes would cause there to be no redirect to the moved article. There are also nine deleted edits from 2010 about the NZ politician under the current "Aaron Hawkins" article that could be restored, if someone is up for a complicated history split / history merge. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:44, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


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