Talk:Abacination

Samson
Samson was not abacinated. Saying that he was is denying the truth of the Bible. The Bible says that the Philistines gouged out his eyes. FrenchNerd487 (talk) 20:17, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What evidence do you have for your claim? Which version of the Bible are you using? Gillyweed (talk) 01:37, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ignoring the ridiculosity of putting "truth" and "Bible" in the same sentence, FrenchNerd487 seems to have a point. The relevant passage seems to be Judges 16:21. The 21st Century King James, Common English Bible, Darby Translation, American Standard, Good News and King James versions says that they "put out" his eyes; the Amplified Bible says "bored out"; The Contemporary English and "God's Word" edition "poked out"; The Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition "pulled out"; Easy-to-Read and New Century "tore out"; English Standard, The Message, Holman, and New American "gouged out"; New Life "cut out"; Young's Literal "pick out". The Hebrew Westminster Leningrad Complex seems to be using "pick" or "pluck" according to Google Translate. The Biblia Sacra Vulgata seems to use "eruerunt" which is third-person plural perfect active indicative of "eruo", which could mean "cast, throw" or "dig, tear, pluck". Apparently the word could also mean "to deliver", as in to deliver a child. Not sure if it's relevant, though. I cannot find any Biblical references to Samson being abacinated; I'm nowhere silly enough to be Christian so I'm not sure if there are any other places one could look. The only references I can find on abacination are ones quoting Wikipedia, and one limerick, one rap lyric, and one pop music lyric, bizarrely enough. I suggest we remove Samson from this article unless no one else wants to try a little digging. --konaya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Konaya (talk • contribs) 20:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Removing orphan status
Found this article through wiki entry Vlad Tepes. Suggest removing orphan status from this article  Erock R  Ph  16:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

meaning
the word refers to use of a basin, not a "metal plate" from Latin bacinus. That is, the face is plased in the hot basin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:41:4003:B7F0:B6D7:2F56:8CFA:41F8 (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Not the only recorded use of the term
Christopher Foyle's "Foyle's Philavery: A Treasury of Unusual Words" is wrong: this word is used in Gene Wolfe's novel series "The Book of the New Sun", e.g. in "The Sword of the Lictor", Chapter XXIV: The Corpse. 2601:152:4C7E:A450:EFCB:64B:DA4B:E6FF (talk) 05:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)