Talk:Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib

Untitled
I'm not sure what the deal was, but for some reason the Arabic text completely fucked up the display of the beginning of the article, causing his death year to come before his birth year, among other things, and was doing seriously weird things over all. I removed it. john k 18:44, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

It appears to have something to do with the right-to-left character of Arabic writing. I have no idea how to fix this. john k 18:50, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Tone of Article
This article is written in a pious tone and should be cleaned up so that it conforms to Wikipedia's standards.

Neutral tone in Wikipedia articles
All articles in Wikipedia should have a neutral tone, either it concerns religion or politics. This artikle does not have it and should therefore be corrected at once. Articles like this only does damage to the reputation of Wikipedia. I hope there is someone out there that can do it. Fjellgauk 05:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above comment applied to the article before a major reversion which may have fixed the issue. But editors should conform to the Manual of Style (Islam-related articles). Aymatth2 (talk) 01:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio
A large portion of the article appeared to be plagiarized from this website. I have deleted all of the suspected text for the time being. -- Joshdboz (talk) 19:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Quotes in article name
This article uses curly quotes instead of straight quotes in the page name. This seems to go against MOS:QUOTEMARKS. Jason Quinn (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Piety
"showed her piety by supernumerary fasting and by attacking Abu Lahab, the enemy of the Muslims, with a tent pole"? How does attacking an enemy with a tent pole show piety?


 * Presumably because her religion instructed her to attack Islam's enemies, either with or without tent-poles!
 * I don't know whether the original author was being blindly hagiographic or just ironic. However, most Muslim sources seem to agree that this attack was a commendable act. According to the original source (admittedly written with a Muslim bias) it was Abu Lahab who had started the fight. See Ibn Ishaq (Guillaume) p. 310.Petra MacDonald 02:52, 6 January 2015 (UTC)


 * In a time where muslims were being oppressed, physically beaten and tortured, even killed, for this woman to stand up and defend her prophet is very courageous , if not pious124.168.12.220 (talk) 01:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Recep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.12.220 (talk) 01:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I think we should make this clear in the article.


 * Such remarks would be better suited to Lubaba's own article, not to this one, which is about Abbas.
 * However, check the sources before adding anything. The Meccans mainly persecuted Muslim slaves and vassals, not the wives of bankers. If you believe that a well-protected person like Lubaba was in nevertheless in danger, you would need to cite a source for this.Petra MacDonald 04:23, 1 February 2015 (UTC)