Talk:Abd al-Malik I (Samanid emir)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. The proposed title is as given in reliable sources. There aren't any that use "Abdul Malik I of Samanid". DrKiernan (talk) 17:39, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Abdul Malik I of Samanid → 'Abd al-Malik I —. It's obvious that this article, and the other "of Samanid" articles in the same category, should be moved to get rid of "of Samanid". What's less obvious is where this should move to. Disambiguating the two Samanid 'Abd al-Maliks by patronymic is not possible as both are sons of fathers called Nuh. Presumably, to be consistent with 'Abd al-Malik II, this should go to 'Abd al-Malik I. But I'm not an expert, or even a dabbler in this field, and it could be that there is an obvious and better way to do things. I'm all ears. Angus McLellan (Talk) 03:29, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It seems that 'Abd is uncommon according to someone more expert than me, so please read this request as being to move to Abd al-Malik I. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:30, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose If it's not clear where else these articles should be moved to, then it's not obvious that they should be moved at all. "Joe X of Ruritania" is the normal Wikipedia naming convention for monarchs, there should be a definite presumption for adopting it.  If "of Samanid" is an odd formulation, why not "of the Samanids" or "of the Samanid Empire"? PatGallacher (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The "normal Wikipedia naming convention for monarchs"? That's the one that says "These following conventions apply to European monarchs since the fall of the Roman Empire"? The "normal Wikipedia naming convention" here should be deduceable from categories vaguely related to Category:Samanids, such as Category:Buyids and Category:Rulers of the Saffarid dynasty. The issue of how to represent "Abd al-Malik" is something else altogether and your comment doesn't address that. Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Coin legend
What does the coin say, and what language is that, Persian or Arabic? Would it be possible to add an explanation? GPinkerton (talk) 11:46, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * If I'm not mistaken the coinage of the Samanids only display their titulature, which is often the Arabic title of Amir, and in some rares cases the Persian title Shahanshah. Though that's just in general, unfortunately I don't possess sources that go into the depth of Samanid coinage more than that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:52, 18 November 2020 (UTC)