Talk:Abdul Razzaq (Guantanamo detainee 923)

Name Change
I think "(Guantanamo detainee 923)" should not be in the title as it negatively labels the indivitual Abdul Razzaq. I hope someone can find a more neutral name and move it there. Iqinn (talk) 15:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Abdul Razzaq (Afghani) should work, yes? Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 15:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is how other Guantanamo detainees have been named. For example, Majid Khan (Guantanamo captive 10020), Nasrullah (Guantanamo detainee 886), and Abdul Ghaffar (Guantanamo detainee 1032). Additionally, I don't think it negatively labels him or that the name isn't neutral. The reason he is notable and belongs in an encyclopedia is because he is a Guantanamo detainee, not because he's from Afghanistan. Chocolateluvr88 (talk) 17:25, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Abdul Razzaq (Afghani) won't work. Let's just count Guantanamo captives. There are six Guantanamo captive named Abdul Razzaq, or some transliteration thereof.  They aren't all Afghans.  But at least three of them are.  And then we have articles about at least three other Afghans, who weren't held in Guantanamo
 * Abdul Razzaq (Guantanamo detainee 923)
 * Abdul Razzak (Guantanamo detainee 942)
 * Abdul Razak (Guantanamo detainee 1043)
 * Abdul Razaq (Taliban Deputy Minister of Defense)
 * Abdul Razzaq (Taliban leader in Khandahar)
 * Abdur Razzaq (Taliban Interior Minister)


 * There is considerable name collision among the Guantanamo captives. Three dozen or more captives have a name identical with another captive's name.  I think it is best to disambiguate all the captives with ambiguous names in a consistent manner.


 * After his death the excellent work of Carlotta Gall and Andy Worthington established that Abdul Razzak (Guantanamo captive 942) was actually named Abdul Razzak Hekmati. I renamed the article Abdul Razzak Hekmati.  Even if we were to determine fuller names for all the Guantanamo captives named Abdul Razzak, but one, I would still argue it would be a mistake to rename that guys article Abdul Razzak (Afghani).


 * Abdul Razaq, Abdul Razzaq, Abdul Razak, Abdul Razzak are all transliterations of the same name. We don't want to end up with having four articles or redirects Abdul Razaq (Afghani), Abdul Razzaq (Afghani), Abdul Razak (Afghani), Abdul Razzak (Afghani) about four different individuals.  Geo Swan (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)