Talk:Abercrombie & Fitch

Too many names
While I was looking for other sources like this one, I realized that there were many more prominent figures who were Abercrombie before it turned into what it is today. It needs to be chopped down. мirаgeinred سَراب ٭ (talk) 05:42, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I realize this post is very old, but ffr, you could be a little more explicit. Rags (talk) 10:31, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Criticism
This article still has multiple issues, with obvious input by "interested" parties, but I have to say, overall, very informative. I particularly like the section covering discrimination and other legal issues, "girlcott", etc. Much has been done to balance out the hyperbole. Personally, I will never wear A & F unless I find it at a thrift store, but then I was never the fashionista. "Good Article" has a very specific meaning here in wiki-world, and we are not at that point, but I like the progress that is being made here. Rags (talk) 11:07, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * All that said, I think the "History" section could be expanded greatly. A&F started as outfitters, which they were, very successfully, for nearly a century.  They're known in military history for providing the first camoflage uniforms to the USMC, when other branches were still restricted to khaki and olive drab.  HUGE military contracts.  This would indicate they were probably hugely successful in peacetime, to have the deep pockets, skill sets, and infrastructure to fulfill such military contracts.  This modern incarnation of A&F is only relatively recent.  My friend who explained all this to me is not very research-savvy, so if he knows this stuff, there should be plenty of good secondary sources.  I'll see what I can do, but my time is limited, so if any of you can help, I believe it would move us along toward a more encyclopedic posting.  Maybe some of you "interested" types, with better computers and more time to invest?  Rags (talk) 11:43, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

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Edits Requested from Abercrombie & Fitch
Hi there,

By way of disclosure, we are associates of Abercrombie & Fitch Co. and we would like to provide some edits to this page that update some of the outdated information.

Our list of edits is below, please let us know the best way to proceed.

-Arthur Martinez is no longer the Executive Chairman of the Board, as announced in January ’18. Terry Burman is now the Non Executive Chairman of the Board

-As announced in October ’17, A&F’s target consumer is 21-24

-A&F does not only cast store employees for its marketing campaigns and the paragraph below is no longer accurate. If you need further clarification, please let us know: Casting directors from the home office travel to key A&F regional stores in the United States and to London to hold "casting calls" for employees aspiring to become the next "A&F New Face".[22][dead link] The company promotes its casting sessions, models, and photo shoots in the "A&F Casting" feature online at abercrombie.com. The website also provides a gallery of current photography. Framed copies at A&F stores will sometimes name the model and store.

-Is it possible to update the leadership names as of ’17 instead of ’14? If so, we can provide those updated executives.

A&#38;F Comms Team (talk) 19:07, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, the important thing about those changes is the availability of publicly accessible sources. It all seems uncontroversial to me, but we need a reference to point at for each statement. Official company websites etc. would do nicely for this kind of information. Exec names should certainly be updated. Could you provide a source for each of the above items? Cheers -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 06:40, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick feedback. Below are sources to verify the updates above. Chairman of the Board Announcement: https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/arthur-martinez-to-step-down-as-executive-chairman-of-abercrombie--fitch-lead-director-terry-burma-20180122-00440

A&F Target Consumer Update: http://inpublic.globenewswire.com/2017/10/19/Abercrombie+Fitch+Launches+New+Fully+Integrated+Campaign+This+is+the+Time+HUG2142789.html

Executive Leadership, within annual report below. Annual reports are published each June, so doesn't include Scott Lipesky, as he joined as CFO in September '17. His announcement is also linked below and should be included in the list of Executive Leadership. http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=61701&p=irol-reportsannual http://inpublic.globenewswire.com/2017/09/06/ABERCROMBIE+FITCH+CO+APPOINTS+CHIEF+FINANCIAL+OFFICER+HUG2131735.html

Let me know if you need further information. Thank you again for taking the time to make these factual updates. Gray92 (talk) 15:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Checking in on the above. Can the above changes be made? Thanks! Gray92 (talk) 17:24, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry for the delay - didn't see you had responded :) I have implemented most of the above changes with the sources given, but apart from Burman and Lipesky, I confess I have been unable to extract the current corporate leadership roster from the annual report, if it is buried in there somewhere. Can I ask you to update those yourself? If you prefer, I can then insert the reference, if you can confirm that the data are from the 2016 report. If you update, I suggest making a note of this talk page conversation in the edit summary, just in case. Cheers -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:58, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , - did you notice the above? You will have to help me out there. Cheers -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:06, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, yes. Thanks for your patience. We recently launched a corporate site that houses all of this information. Please reference this. http://corporate.abercrombie.com/our-company/about-us/leadership Does this work? Thanks. Gray92 (talk) 13:05, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Alright, that works fine. Done. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Great. Will the contributors make the edits then based on the above? Thank you. Gray92 (talk) 14:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I already did? -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:12, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, it still has Arthur as Chairman on the right hand side. Can that be updated to Terry Burman, as non executive chairman? Thank you. Gray92 (talk) 16:25, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, right you are; fixed. (This kind of thing would be entirely uncontroversial for you to change yourself, by the way, for future reference.) -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:43, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Noted, thank you! Gray92 (talk) 12:51, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi there! Was hoping you could make an update on the Humanitarian section? Our annual A&F Challenge benefits SeriousFun Children's Network, and has since 2016. See here for more details: http://anfchallenge.org/

Thanks! Gray92 (talk) 18:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I suggest you whip up a sentence or two on that and post it here for review? Cheers -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! This section, The A&F Challenge is an annual fundraising event held on the home office campus in New Albany that features running, walking, biking, entertainment, and food. The funds raised go to the Ohio State University Medical Center's Program for Health, which focuses on "women's cancers and the prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of inflammatory bowel disease." needs to be updated to say that the funds raised benefit SeriousFun Children's Network (it is not longer benefitting OSU Medical Center). Additionally, can we add this to the overall section: In 2016, A&F Co. and SeriousFun Children's Network launched a 5-year, $15 million partnership through 2020. Founded by actor and philanthropist Paul Newman, SeriousFun Children's Network is a global community of camps and programs for kids with serious illnesses and their families. Specially-designed facilities and programs allow every child, no matter the medical condition, the opportunity to experience the magic of camp -- always free of charge. Whether through summer camp, sibling and family weekends, hospital outreach programs, or a number of other camp-inspired activities, being sick takes a back seat to being a kid. The network consists of 30 camps and programs worldwide.

A&F's support includes $7.5M fundraised dollars through the A&F Challenge, $7.5M in in kind donations, and 100,000 associate volunteer hours though the company's A&F Camp Counselor Program. For more information on this partnership, and others, visit http://corporate.abercrombie.com/af-cares/af-gives-back/our-mission

Gray92 (talk) 19:46, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Bob Jones University
I have two concerns with this citation. First and foremost, the quoted language does not actually exist in the source material as provided by the link. The handbook states "Abercrombie & Fitch and its subsidiary Hollister have shown an unusual degree of antagonism to biblical morality. Therefore, BJU asks its students not to patronize these stores, wear their clothing, or display articles containing their names or logos." The language about "the name of Christ and an unusual display of wickedness" is absent in the source material. If this was a quote from a different iteration of the Student Handbook, please update the reference so that the quote reflects the source. If the language does not exist in any iteration please remove the erroneous language. (There is a substantial difference between an institution stating that a company does things that are inconsistent with the institution and avoiding the company as a result and affirmatively calling a company evil). Second, this quote is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. There is no discussion of as to what aspect or in what way A&F have shown antagonism to biblical morality. This is one institutions opinion that comes with no explanation. This reference is not styled as the opinion of a single non-denominational Christian school, rather as further proof that A&F is antagonistic to the schools version of biblical morality and A&F's inherent wickedness. This is entirely devoid of any objective analysis and is no more than a statement of opinion and has no business being presented as fact. P.S. personally I would never buy from A&F because of the myriad other legitimate criticisms contained in this article and elsewhere. I am by no means attempting to defend A&F or its actions. I do feel that the article should more accurately reflect reality — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.125.143.178 (talk) 15:53, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

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